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vaucluse



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Fuel filter water draining
Can anyone explain the procedure for draining water out the Puma fuel filter?

I loosened the drain at the bottom of the filter but only got two drips out so i carried on to the point where the drain plug almost fell out but didn't get anymore out. I thought it was a bit odd?

Mark
Post #128645 4th Mar 2012 5:15pm
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spudfan



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Have drained it a few times. Generally I just loosen the drain bung until my fingers get wet, sniff them then as it always smells of diesel I tighten it back again. Never had to remove it completely.Maybe yours was tightened too much and the end of the bleed screw broke off and is blocking the drain. Should be easily checked next time you remove it. Pop into a parts department and ask to have a look at a filter and check the bung. Or just change yours for a new one if you are worried. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #128781 5th Mar 2012 12:15am
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CapeLandy



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My drain was also blocked with all the silt that got sucked through the fuel tank breather which was positioned in the wheel arch on the early Puma's.
I merely stuck some fishing gut into the drain hole to allow the silt/mud/water to escape. Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #128830 5th Mar 2012 11:52am
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An LRO magazine article mentions this problem

"Commonly, fuel contamination is caused as a result of tyre spray entering the tank vent pipe beneath the rear wheel arch. A modification exists for the vent pipe which prevents water and dirt entering" WHAT MOD? They don't say, useless Rolling Eyes

Hopefully they are sorted now from what CapeLandy is saying Thumbs Up
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vaucluse



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What I'm not sure about is if I clear the silt obstructing the drain and get say half a pint out, will draining down automatically draw fuel from the tank into the filter and hence any bleeding through of air wouldn't then be necessary?

Also if I wanted to replace the filter would I simply unscrew the old one and fit up a new one filled with either diesel or Forte, start the engine and idle for 10 mins? Or do I need the kit to bleed the air through?

Many thanks in advance,

Mark
Post #128861 5th Mar 2012 2:38pm
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spudfan



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If you fill the new filter with diesel and screw it on it will be o.k.Seen it done by a mechanic while I was in getting something done.The joys of being in an independent's garage! 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #128867 5th Mar 2012 2:58pm
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CapeLandy



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The modification I made was to place the breather behind the plastic guard plate to the rear of the wheel arch, and for doubble safety I extended the breather into the rear cabin space with a few loops of clear hose.

I also made my own fuel bleeding tool using a boat fuel tank priming bulb and a machined bit which fits into the quick release fitting in the fuel pump suction line to draw the fuel through a new empty filter cartridge. Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #128883 5th Mar 2012 4:37pm
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spudfan



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On my 2008 Puma I extended the fuel tank breather up into the engine bay. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #128887 5th Mar 2012 5:06pm
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The mod is just to extend the breather. If you want belt and braces take it all the way up to the engine bay.

On changing filters I just fill it with fuel and slap it on. Never needed the bleed tool, it always fired first go with no problem at all (and I changed a lot of filters on the puma). Just be careful when you remove it and replace it and remember that the thread is the opposite way. Also when you fill the filter with fuel, try not to get any down the sides and try to keep it as clean as possible. If you don't you cant get the purchase required to click it into place. It'll screw in fine, but its the final *click* that you need to hear to know it's fully in position and tha'ts hard to do with your hands if the filter has fuel on it since you cant grip it properly. if you don't hear that click it's not fully seated.
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spudfan



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BigMike wrote:
The mod is just to extend the breather. If you want belt and braces take it all the way up to the engine bay.

On changing filters I just fill it with fuel and slap it on. Never needed the bleed tool, it always fired first go with no problem at all (and I changed a lot of filters on the puma). Just be careful when you remove it and replace it and remember that the thread is the opposite way. Also when you fill the filter with fuel, try not to get any down the sides and try to keep it as clean as possible. If you don't you cant get the purchase required to click it into place. It'll screw in fine, but its the final *click* that you need to hear to know it's fully in position and tha'ts hard to do with your hands if the filter has fuel on it since you cant grip it properly. if you don't hear that click it's not fully seated.

Thumbs Up Well explained. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #128890 5th Mar 2012 5:14pm
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vaucluse



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Thanks BigMike - fabulous explanation.

Much appreciated Thumbs Up
Post #128917 5th Mar 2012 6:52pm
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CapeLandy wrote:
The modification I made was to place the breather behind the plastic guard plate to the rear of the wheel arch, and for doubble safety I extended the breather into the rear cabin space with a few loops of clear hose.


That doesn't sound like a good idea to me Shocked John

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JSG wrote:
CapeLandy wrote:
The modification I made was to place the breather behind the plastic guard plate to the rear of the wheel arch, and for doubble safety I extended the breather into the rear cabin space with a few loops of clear hose.


That doesn't sound like a good idea to me Shocked


Worked fine for 3 years like that, no fumes at all as there is a small filter unit inline also. Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
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