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| Mynstral Member Since: 14 Feb 2012 Location: Essex Posts: 119   
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Hi,
Whose Box is best? Alive or BAS? Looked at both very similar, help pls. Thanks, Myn. |
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23rd Feb 2012 5:39pm |
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| JSG Member Since: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2412 
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Both seem to work well, and both are sponsors on here. Best bet is to ask Gary and Pete any questions and then decide. Opinions on here are like belly buttons (everybody has one)
 John
http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk 2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS |
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23rd Feb 2012 5:55pm |
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| Killer90 Site Sponsor Member Since: 09 Oct 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 6478 
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gary at alive is a sound chap and knows exactly what he is doing
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23rd Feb 2012 6:57pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2480  
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Perhaps <0.1% of the chaps here had both. Better to ask you gives you the best deal. Puma 110" SW
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23rd Feb 2012 7:33pm |
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| sc70 Member Since: 29 Jun 2010 Location: Tregaron Posts: 261  
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Had mine from Pete Bell, top bloke 100% genuine and very helpful, i've never used alive but i think youll get a great tune and service which everone you decide to use
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23rd Feb 2012 7:35pm |
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| rusty66 Member Since: 22 Jun 2010 Location: Rhineland Posts: 60 
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In smart*ss mode I would say the boxes are the same save the stickers on them. It's the tuning files that the boxes write to your ECU that are different.
Forum search will reveal lots of happy customers with both companies. I am very happy with Gary's (Alive) support throughout the whole process and until I was completely happy. I don't think you can do much wrong with either of them. I wouldn't go for anyone else (judging from hundreds of forum posts here and elsewhere that I've read). It's just not worth it. |
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23rd Feb 2012 8:56pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5982 
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Alive
Andy |
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23rd Feb 2012 10:15pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 
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Alive and BAS are probably of similarly high quality but Alive have been incredibly helpful sorting out my (problematic) 110
Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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23rd Feb 2012 11:56pm |
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| wslr Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Wellington, Somerset Posts: 581
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Don't use a piggyback type unit. They are rubbish and dangerous. |
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24th Feb 2012 12:02am |
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| Bearcat Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Dublin Posts: 57 
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Ditto.....I had one in my last td5..... A piece of lethal and dangerous sh!te. I remember I was on the motorway in the fast lane tipping 70mph at night when the ecu went into safe mode due to the interference of the piggy back tuning box. Jeep lost all power, not pretty when your in a line of fast moving traffic. Only way I could kick start the ecu back into life (still in the fast lane) was to quickly flick on/off/on the ignition......I'm sure if anyone saw a landie turning off their lights momentarily was wondering what's he at... This event happened twice.......scared the living daylights out of me......I smashed the box in temper against a wall. Remap and new intercooler sorted my woes. That's my experience with those boxes. Current...07 90 Puma commercial Porsche 930 1988 (laid up) Previous Td5 90 & V8 90 |
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25th Feb 2012 12:48pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20919
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I understand what your saying perfectly. The only problem with the ECU maps is though that they're un-removable am I correct in saying this? For example vehicle under warrenty / insurance |
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25th Feb 2012 1:06pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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No - they can be set back to factory map in a few minutes as long as you go for the "console" approach, e.g. Alive and BAS provide these remapping units and they can be used anywhere, anytime (e.g. here in Germany). If I wanted, I could go outside now and set my 110 back to factory standard before my tea cooled down.
The only other thing you need is a PC to load the maps onto the console (this was a problem for me as I am a "Macman"). p.s. I keep my unit in the truck in case I have a prang and need to remove the map before LR or insurers get involved  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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25th Feb 2012 1:22pm |
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| wslr Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Wellington, Somerset Posts: 581
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The PSI type piggyback boxes are to be avoided.
Alive (and indeed BAS) have a system - ATRIC - that allows you to put your custom map on and off the vehicle when needed (as in Warranty/Insurance). Theses units are not left connected to the vehicle. You just plug it into the OBD2 port to the RHS of the fusebox and follow the screen prompts. When finished, you disconnect the ATRIC and drive away. This is the best way to do it as you can decided when to have the engine running as standard or mapped. |
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25th Feb 2012 1:25pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015 
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I am a huge fan of Garys (Alive) customer service. I would say the BAS remap and Alivbe are very similar. But I used to own a Discovery and every Discovery Td5 wner who went to see Gary for a remap couldn't say a bad word about the service and product so when I came to getting one he was straight to the short list.
I looked at: Alive, BAS and Twisted. I remover BAS from the list as it was between them and Alive and Alive had way more better reviews. I went to Twisted (I was at Ripon at the time) and even though they have some awesome products I felt as though it was more of a chav 'I want 200BHP out of my Corsa which has 20" bling wheels and a ICE system which will make your ears bleed' type of place (if you get my drift). So I went Alive and then a few months later went back for a full exhaust system and currently saving up for intercooler and hybrid turbo from them. Glyn   |
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25th Feb 2012 1:32pm |
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