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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
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First issue with Defender!
This morning l've been driving the Defender (110 2.2) and seem to have lost most of the synchromesh when changing from 4th to 5th gear.

lt was fine yesterday and all the other gears are smooth with no issues.

Looking online this seems to be common with this transmission and over on the Ford forums there's even a class action lawsuit in progress from Mustang owners with this transmission.

So, is it even worth considering a repair? The Defender is still under warranty from the independent LR specialist dealer l bought it from. But l've read of people with these vehicles having issues when new, and the gearbox replaced two or three times.

l've changed the oil recently, using the correct 75w/90 specification
and amount (2.4 litres)

l wonder if the fault might disappear the same way it arrived, or if it's a sign of impending failure ? No big deal, l expected this kind of thing tbh. But just need to know whether to just accept it as "character" or take it back to the dealer.
Post #1078764 30th Oct 2025 12:24pm
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revd



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take it back - I think it is a big deal on low miles 110 - slow but sure R380 in my old 90 is still smooth as it approaches 200k
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LR90XS2011



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its not normal take it back under warranty DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
ps don't tell them you changed the oil DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #1078797 30th Oct 2025 7:38pm
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lightning



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l already told them....they sold me the oil!

I will see how it goes over the next few days and take it back if it's still the same.
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Clemmo



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You are clearly a very easy going Guy..

....but you must return it.

This is why we buy from Dealers, because they offer warranty.
This is why Dealers charge premium prices.

Clemmo Thumbs Up
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jim4244



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What all the above have said Lightning. Back to the dealer to resolve to your satisfaction.

Jim
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Welshsurferdude



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As everyone says

I am a specialist defender dealer myself, if it breaks in the first 3 months send it back, they have a legal duty to repair to your satsifaction and it is why we charge more to cover potential warranty issues. not just to line our pockets Rolling with laughter

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2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS
Post #1078838 31st Oct 2025 11:01am
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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
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Thank you for the advice. l've been driving the Defender today, done around 45 miles and there's been no issues with the gear change at all.

l will tell the dealer about it. But tbh quite a few of the "Puma" Defenders l've test driven had similar issues. My TD5 would at times not like the change from second to third gear.
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Welshsurferdude



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yeah its a common thing
cant rush a puma gearbox! Rolling with laughter 2011 Santorini Black USW XS.

2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS
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