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| Cragster69 Member Since: 15 Jun 2021 Location: Scotland Posts: 256   
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Found this via a Google Lens search. I know you had found out about the crown & VR markings
Crown VR stands for "Crown Victoria Regina," meaning the object was made during the reign of Queen Victoria (1837-1901) "TS" typically signifies a "Trade Standard" or is a weight and measure inspector's mark, indicating the item was officially verified for its capacity or standard, often for use in pubs or other businesses. It could have been a Whisky or Wine (or other alcoholic liquid) barrel, something that you would want to know you are getting the correct amount of for your money as a publican? That will look lovely cleaned up and filled with firewood  Craig.
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23rd Oct 2025 8:29pm |
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| Barneyboy Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Exmoor Posts: 1648  
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Hi Craig, Thank you very much for that information, I’m just glad I got in the yard when I did as it would have been crushed, so it’s at least 124 years old possibly older and will live on, that’s great to also know the meaning of the TS stamp as I hadn’t found that, looking forward to sympathetically tidying it up and giving it space in our fireplace. Cheers Paul
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24th Oct 2025 4:58am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 18038  
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Whatever its original purpose it is a lovely thing and will be beautiful when cleaned up a little. I am glad that you were in the right place at the right time to save it, far too much interesting old stuff gets destroyed.
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24th Oct 2025 10:02am |
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| Barneyboy Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Exmoor Posts: 1648
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Thank you, Unfortunately I see it daily, occasionally just in time but more often just as it’s being crushed.
Paul |
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24th Oct 2025 5:53pm |
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| AMBxx Member Since: 24 Jul 2016 Location: York Posts: 1073 
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If the handles are original, then it almost certainly wasn't used for wine or whisky as those barrels are designed to be stacked and rolled, so handles would just be in the way.
Any evidence it could have been cut in half and the handles added? More likely the handles are used for carrying an open barrel or a there was also a lid. Any thoughts on what that could be. Was milk carried in anything other than the metal urns? |
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25th Oct 2025 6:49am |
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| AMBxx Member Since: 24 Jul 2016 Location: York Posts: 1073
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Quick dose of duck.ai suggests meaure for dry ingredients such as grains.
It gave other ideas but nothing else would have needed the stamp. |
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25th Oct 2025 6:52am |
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| Bowbearer Member Since: 12 Aug 2022 Location: Norfolk Posts: 236 
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An old boy I used to work with in Manchester said all the Irish lads who were picked for work on the docks that day (before the unions) were given a pint of Guinness at the start of the shift.
He said they used to scoop it out of an open half barrel. Made me think of that. That’s the beauty of these things, guessing who and what and why. Good find, nice to see it saved. |
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25th Oct 2025 9:54am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 18038
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I don't for a moment think it's a cut-down barrel since the vertical straps between the hoops would not normally be present on a barrel. They are clearly original since they're rivetted to the hoops.
I also don't think it would be for liquid measure since the shape and size would make spillage inevitable, so I am sure it would have been for grain or similar (perhaps even gunpowder). Fill level with the top, then use the handle to tip into some other vessel perhaps. |
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25th Oct 2025 10:36am |
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