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| Jabberwocky Member Since: 27 Oct 2021 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 240  
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We were there in July, lovely part of the world. Shame Pic Negre is closed at the moment, victim of its own popularity.
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11th Oct 2024 2:30pm |
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| 34064 Member Since: 12 Dec 2023 Location: South Central Posts: 227  
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We came back last week from 16 days out there had a brilliant time met some great people including Jimmy Deville in his Defender 90 110 Td5 Ex Utilities slowly converting into a pop top camper one day
Build thread:https://www.defender2.net/forum/post1024784.html#1024784 |
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11th Oct 2024 5:52pm |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 2021  
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Me and my son spent 3 weeks last year in Barcelona and the Pyrenees, had a great time and found the Vibraction books perfect….apart from the road closures lol.
 Click image to enlarge 2023 Defender L663 V8 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 (gone) 2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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11th Oct 2024 8:21pm |
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| Neil Jackson Member Since: 12 Oct 2023 Location: Whitby Posts: 13 
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Our first overlanding trip this year we are going to the Pyrenees, can't wait to be fair. We have done a few bit around the UK but the pics I see on here, and other places it looks amazing. How do you find out about closures, is the old fashioned way, by turning up and finding them or is there an online source?
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14th Mar 2025 10:27am |
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| steveww Member Since: 05 Jan 2022 Location: Malton Posts: 610 
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Have a look at WikiLoc https://www.wikiloc.com look for reports on there for the routes you're interested in. However, the best way to find out is turn up. If it's closed it's all part of the adventure and you may do another fantastic route as an alternative.
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14th Mar 2025 1:45pm |
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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2361 
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Neil, If it is your first trip then buying a vibraction guide and route is a really good idea.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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16th Mar 2025 2:03pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 07 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1887 
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We were there a couple of years ago now, using the vibration books. One of the advantages to that is that they provide updates on any closures etc. But, on what was to be our last day, on the eastern side, we went miles down a narrow, cobbled track, turned a corner and found a ‘boulder’ blocking any progress. I say boulder, but it was genuinely massive - imagine about 4 shipping containers welded together. There had been a huge thunderstorm in the hills the night before, and even more worrying was the thought of what else might be up there waiting to come down. That was a long and tricky reverse uphill in low box to find a space large enough to turn around. As you say, all part of the adventure!! Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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16th Mar 2025 3:02pm |
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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 588  
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^^^^ yeah, vibraCtion roadbooks. Lovely
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22nd Mar 2025 9:35pm |
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| MajorTravels Member Since: 20 Jun 2025 Location: Cambridge Posts: 2
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We have just prepped our 1993 110 200 Tdi for Pyranees, accessing from Calais to Biaritz, plan to drive through Andorra, Ordesa National Park and hopefully make it to North coast of Portugal. But what about Crita'Air - no chance of any sticker. Had hoped to potter down Route Nationales, but looks like we are not welcome with our diesel. Any guidance?
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20th Jun 2025 1:09pm |
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| revd Member Since: 20 Apr 2024 Location: England Posts: 270
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Only certain cities are stickered
As of December 2024, ZCRs that might affect drivers arriving from the UK are currently implemented in the following locations in France: Aix-Marseille-Provence region Bordeaux Clermont-Ferrand Grenoble Lille Lyon Nice Marseille Montpellier Paris Reims Rouen Strasbourg Saint-Etienne Toulouse |
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20th Jun 2025 1:25pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1281 
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Its the French way though (at least in Paris):
- No signs marking where it starts or ends, you have to consult a on-line map, most French don't know and don't care - Certainly no cameras enforcing anything - A lot of cars don't bother with the sticker or it's faded beyond recognition - You can park a non-compliant car, because you are allowed to enter before 8, and after 8, so its hard to enforce anything other than getting caught red-handed - driving etc - The dates for various strictness level enforcement came and went resulting in total confusion - Now in Paris they are considering abandoning the whole scheme, because it's not fair on the poor (and frankly it isn't fair that money buys you access) Maybe enforcement is stricter in other cities, but when I passed Toulouse a few weeks ago I cannot recall ever seeing a signpost saying I was entering. |
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20th Jun 2025 2:28pm |
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| MajorTravels Member Since: 20 Jun 2025 Location: Cambridge Posts: 2
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@Revd - yes this is the list of doom for drivers of older vehicles as posted by RAC etc
@TexasRover, I like "The French way" - much more my style anyone else heard of fines in Spain for driving on The Smugglers trail from Andorra, or is that another hyped "lore"? |
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20th Jun 2025 2:45pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2748 
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Use the Green Zones app, it will show you the boundaries of the zones. Some navigation apps like Waze can also be configured to avoid zones of varying levels depending on crit-air sticker level.
Rouen zone shown by way of example: Click image to enlarge |
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20th Jun 2025 5:52pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2748
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And I’ve been stopped by the Guarda Civil coming down the smugglers trail into Spain from Andorra, they were only interested in checking I wasn’t smuggling anything.
Never heard of anyone having any issues driving the route. There’s a toll for driving up Pic Negre on the other side of Andorra but you can still drive the track over into Spain on that side for free too. |
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20th Jun 2025 5:54pm |
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