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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6346 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
while in this instance I'm not referring to anything LR it is generic.
I'm trying to fix my daughters car and I'm quickly thinking I've bitten off far more than I can chew (yes I'm a fool). I've not a nut that just won't budge. I've tried a HD impact driver, long breaker bar, penetrating oil, heat and now I'm at the point where I've managed to round the nut and the last resort is cutting it. what do you reckon my chances are of cutting it using an oscillating multi-tool such as; https://tools4trade.co.uk/products/dewalt-...fe0240909a It's a 21mm nut on the lower suspension ball joint. The reason for suggesting this over an angle is both to reduce risk of damaging the thread on the captive bolt but also limited access? and any other useful suggestions most welcome. ![]() |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8318 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Impact driver and smaller socket. Cheers
James 110 2010 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 1003 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Weld a socket on. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6346 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
tried the nut splitter but due to the nut being slightly 'counter' sunk compared to its surrounding I'm struggling to get the splitting on straight.
been using a hefty impact on it and nothing. if the multi-tool wont do it I guess I'm left with the 4 1/2" grinder (maybe a hacksaw too) as I don't have any welding factilities. thank you all the same. |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17850 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Drill the nut and split it with a cold chisel.
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6346 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
thank you BW.
I did try drilling the one. but no cold chisel as yet. something like this; https://www.toolstation.com/roughneck-chisel-set/p98971 |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17850 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yes, that's the sort of thing. Drill the nut to weaken it as much as possible (either parallel with the bolt or towards the bolt though a flat face) taking care not to damage the thread on the bolt, then split it with the chisel along the line of the hole or holes you've drilled.
It needs a little care and patience but seldom fails, and is in fact the old-school way of solving the problem. |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6346 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() awesome. I love 'old school'. although I love 'simples' even more. thank you very much (as ever) for your help. a little job for the weekend. if it works the not only will be chuffed, but so will the daughter. will let you know how it goes. ![]() |
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Penfold_6290 Member Since: 22 Sep 2021 Location: Dorset Posts: 385 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi, as a user of Dowdeswell ploughs back in my formative years I have knowledge of seized/rounded nuts in awful hard to reach places. As has already been mentioned a stout cold chisel encouraged by a substantial hammer will either split the nut or deform it in such a way that it will undo. I have split dozens of nuts this way and in most cases the bolt was reusable.
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The Zee Member Since: 26 May 2019 Location: Salisbury Posts: 295 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I don't know if anybody has tried these: https://www.lasertools.co.uk/Product/7524/...r-Set-12pc
They apperar to be "single use" hardened 12 point bolt caps that you hammer on and then unscrew with a 12 point socket: I've never tried them, but might get you out of a fix ? Zaid-M www.DefencePhotos.com 2014 Defender 110 Utility, 2.2 Puma, Indus Silver Not just transport more like a religion |
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90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2255 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
better off with a set of Irwin's more likely??
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/376137426923?ch...BsEALw_wcB |
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Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2421 ![]() ![]() |
Adding to Blackwoifs drilling method, if you have an SDS drill with roto stop , I.e it can be in hammer mode with no rotation , you can grind a sharp edge on an SDS chisel bit and use drill in roto stop mode to chisel the nut after drilling it.
It makes things easier than swinging a big hammer in tight spaces and applies many hard blows per minute. This works a treat on exhaust nuts so should work well for you. I tend to initially chisel directly towards the bolt, then as it splits chisel at an angle to undo the nut. NB, this is in essence what you would do in a workshop with an air chisel, but something you can do at home if you , a friend , or neighbour have an SDS drill with roto stop. Ps, when drilling use a centre punch to start the drill in the centre of the nut , especially if drilling parallel to the bolt. Use a 3 mm drill bit to start, smaller and the drill bit will likely break, bigger and it will take forever. Use plenty of oil or grease on drill bit. Once drilled with 3mm move to 4mm, the 4.5 etc , just making sure you don’t catch the bolt threads. Then chisel. |
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winchman Member Since: 27 May 2025 Location: Merseyside Posts: 10 ![]() ![]() |
Once the usual methods fail I have a set of very sharp Proto Chisels never fails to split a nut yet
I was lucky and bought a used set years ago, but sometimes things like this are worth the initial investment. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Proto-577-86C-Col...B000QS5B50 |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6346 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Many thanks above most closely matches what I did. started with a 3mm drill. generally started on the flat face of nut but also resorted to some parallet drilling and chisel. when you get the drill speed just right and the wind blowing in the right direction its very satisfying getting along spiral of metal swarf coming off the drill ![]() ![]() I've got two more to get off and them I'm onto the rebuild. ![]() oh. I also used a 4" grinder extensively on some nuts - in this instance I wasn't worried about damaging thread, which is just aswell ![]() |
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