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| ruben Member Since: 04 Feb 2021 Location: ASTURIAS Posts: 333  
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But you could do that with a P400 plug-in hybrid in electric mode almost always and with less worries I think... the aproved like this are cheap here now at least.!! Defender 110 SE I6 D250 23MY
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16th May 2025 3:59pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3615  
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Those journeys sound like a DPF killer.
I have personally known four people who have had DPF problems with all types of makes of Diesels and only one of those vehicles ever made it back onto the road. The other three had large amounts of money thrown at them and the problem was never resolved and the cars were sold as non-runners. But I would also say I know a guy with a Renault Captur diesel which has only ever done short journeys. 6-7 miles maximum and many much shorter. It’s on a 64 plate so 10 years old and it has never had a problem. Makes you wonder how multidrop vans used by Amazon and the delivery companies fared with their diesels? |
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16th May 2025 4:31pm |
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| rn123 Member Since: 16 May 2025 Location: London Posts: 3
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Thanks, will take a look at these |
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16th May 2025 8:35pm |
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| rn123 Member Since: 16 May 2025 Location: London Posts: 3
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That was my sentiment, could be on a hiding to nothing. My other half says, flippantly, that loads of people have these and they dont seem to have any problems with DPFs, but it does strike me as a bit of a gamble. |
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16th May 2025 8:36pm |
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| DrRob Member Since: 29 Mar 2017 Location: Hampshire Posts: 246
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P400e MY25 90 D350 X-Dynamic HSE in Silicon Silver and coil sprung
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie" Many Range Rovers and Land Rovers over the years 😂 1949 80" - still in family since 1975 |
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16th May 2025 8:39pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3615
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[quote="rn123"]
Or you bite the bullet, go for it, and give the thing a good long journey every couple of weeks? I believe it needs to be a road where you can keep a constant speed so roundabouts are not your friend. Motorways are good as long as they are clear. I have no idea what the concept of a motorway is because I live in Norfolk  |
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16th May 2025 8:44pm |
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| Munchie Member Since: 31 Oct 2024 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 56
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I bought a new d350 1st March and my journey is typically 3 miles a day, I didn’t buy it thinking the engine would self destruct from the shorter journeys. I’d agree with your partner, you only ever hear about the small percentage of people with problems on forums not the masses who don’t have problems.
We have a 66 plate Skoda yeti diesel that has done in the main 10 miles a day for the last 7 years, it too hasn’t self destructed. |
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16th May 2025 11:05pm |
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| nebc100 Member Since: 07 Nov 2023 Location: Altlinster Posts: 106 
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I have a P400 and love it!! On short trips it uses about 11l/100km and in longer trips have even managed to get it down to 7.5l/100km!!
Note: P400 not the P400e!! |
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17th May 2025 7:12am |
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| Crazymind Member Since: 11 Jun 2024 Location: Glasgow Posts: 256
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I think it depends on how long you’ll keep the car for…cheaper to replace the dpf than 20k of battery under the hybrid petrol… if you plan to keep it 8-10 years think about this as well…
On the other side petrol-hybrid feel effortless to drive and it doesn’t feel that heavy in city runs…probably a bonus if plenty of city driving around… On the other side the 6 in line diesel ingenium is the peak of modern diesel motoring… I think it’s even better that the 6 inline bmw, which I think is more suitable to lighter cars than heavy SUV, in terms of how it delivers power and torque. Between the 2 engines there is probably 5/6 mpg per gallon in favour of the diesel. I was around 28/30mpg with my defender before installing roof bars, ladder, side molle plate…down to 26/28 mpg, 25mpg with roof tent on… Take 5/6mpg off the petrol and you’ll get real figure on what to expect on a long trip. However if you do a few miles every day you might be able to shove off a lot of petrol costs only using electricity. On the diesel side I would replace oil every 6 months with your driving pattern. Can’t avoid diesel in the sump over time. |
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17th May 2025 10:53am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3463 
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I have an annual mileage of 7k miles, never had an issue regarding DPFs but it does get a good run 2 or 3 times a month. Just completed a DPF regen today, it does give a nice exhaust burble. Also it did get an oil/filter change at a year old. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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17th May 2025 4:16pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3615
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As J77 says. Just a bit of TLC and it shouldn’t be a problem.
I think some of the comments about ‘just replace the DPF when it packs up’ are a little bit blinkered. This is the major problem and why the people I knew threw large amounts of money at their vehicles. I don’t know how or why, but replacing the offending article doesn’t always work. It is almost as if the vehicle holds its memory. It still thinks it’s blocked even when it blatantly isn’t. The four vehicles were a Jag (the one that was repaired but only after paying out a shed load of money) a Peugeot and two Fords. The two Fords had probably been used as Private Hire Vehicles. The Peugeot was a shopping trolley. The Jag did mostly get longish runs (as the Guy cycled to work) which made it all the more bizarre. Agreeably none of these vehicles went to Main Dealers but did go to pretty clued up well appointed garages. I would go as far to say that even going back ten years ago, I knew of an old boy who was going to buy a diesel. The salesman questioned how he would use the vehicle and deterred him from buying one and said he would be best with a petrol. It’s up to personal levels of risk. It can obviously be a problem. If managed, the problem shouldn’t exist and yes, there are numerous Diesels on the road that have never had a problem. Plenty of vehicles out there with known design flaws that people still buy. God help me I own Ford Fiesta with a wet timing belt |
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17th May 2025 5:29pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 3116
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The DPF is fine with short journeys on the D250. l have had no issues with mine in 20,000 miles. The vehicle does have some longer runs.
The DPF is so efficient it will start a regeneration literally 30 seconds after a cold start, and still complete it in around 15 minutes. l've heard of no issues with the DPF on the 3.0 diesel and l've been all over these forums since 2022. The only thing that happened with mine is, it demanded the first service at just over 16,000 miles (rather than 21,000 as LR recommends) l obviously had it done, but l had already changed the oil and filter twice because l don't agree with the extended service intervals, but that's another discussion. |
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17th May 2025 8:29pm |
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| dspuk Member Since: 25 Oct 2024 Location: South Posts: 50
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It will be ok. |
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17th May 2025 10:04pm |
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| Soup Dragon Member Since: 22 Sep 2023 Location: Cheshire Posts: 98 
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Don’t. Do. It.
I have sold my 110 D250 this week due to DPF issues. My car was doing a regen every 30 miles rather than every 300 miles. Went back to dealer 3 times. No fault code so no problem as far as JLR is concerned. Client relations backed dealer. I’m disgusted with JLR. Never again. Would suggest P400e but you will still need to deal with incompetent and arrogant dealers. Good luck… |
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18th May 2025 7:56pm |
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