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| mrdefendercarabinieri Member Since: 15 May 2025 Location: Heemskerk Posts: 3   
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hello i use Dexron II for my gearbox as the manual says for R380
when i used mt94 oil i started to have problems with the 2nd gear i drained it and refilled the gb with dx II , problem solved |
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15th May 2025 1:06pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5917 
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This is what I use in mine with good results
Gear box. Fuchs Titan Sintofluid SAE 75W-80. 2.5ltr |
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15th May 2025 1:44pm |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5956  
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I have been using MTF94 from Smith and Allen - works OK for me 1999 Defender TD5 110
Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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15th May 2025 2:54pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 939  
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Just to add my bit.
I always insisted on genuine LR MTF94 in my previous Discovery and then in my current Defender and did for a number of years. The last time I thought I would save some money and use another cheaper MTF94 and I am convinced gear change quality has deteriorated since so I am considering going back to genuine stuff but it's getting hard to find a very pricey. Thing is I am sure it was better than what I have now... 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW 2002 Discovery 2 td5 GS (gone) 1994 Defender 90 300Tdi CSW (gone) |
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15th May 2025 3:30pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2218 
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Thanks all. Very interesting. I appreciate your feedback 👍
I’ve never had any problems with the LR MTF94, nor the gearbox itself. There is an argument for ‘if it ain’t broke…’ but I’d hate to be blindly carrying on if there are better* alternatives out there. I do acknowledge that my favoured product is increasing in cost, and reducing in availability, but that isn’t the primary driver, if you pardon the pun… *I don’t want to clearly define ‘better’ at this stage as I will cause an argument! |
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15th May 2025 3:41pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3551  
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Some weeks ago was checking the engine oil spec I use on my cheap daily…as was thinking if I could use same in my motorcycle…. albeit all info online says no due to the wet clutch.
https://www.millersoils-shop.co.uk/trident...engine-oil If you read the spec, it says Land Rover MTF-94 Gear Oil Specification I first tried it out on a cheaper 125cc motorcycle with a horrible gear change, and what a difference it made. As a side note, NO issues with slipping clutch. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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15th May 2025 6:27pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2218
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That’s interesting to know.
Millers are good products 👍 |
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15th May 2025 7:57pm |
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| MadTom Member Since: 10 Sep 2013 Location: Olomouc Posts: 651  
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ATF (Dextron) is old specification for R380, it was replaced byt MTF94, and this old informarion should be discarted from manuals.
According to my experience, there are differences between Texaco MTF94 and other MTF94 compatible oils. And I have also experienced faked MTF94 oils, so for me only original small packages of MTF94. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo  |
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16th May 2025 8:13am |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 578  
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But transmission oils aren't just about ease of shifting, are they?
Gear shifting relies on synchronization, which brings shafts rotating at different speeds to the same rotational speed. A good gearbox lubricant protects the bearings and internal gears from wear (which requires a viscosity suitable for all temperatures and suitable additives for the gear coating). My point is, for example, a thicker lubricant may make shifting easier, but not necessarily ensure the long-term lubrication of the gearbox. Therefore, the quality of an oil shouldn't be judged solely on how easy it makes gear shifting. “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique. -- 2009 2.4 Puma Defender 90 SW 1979 Land Rover Series 3 88" |
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16th May 2025 8:51am |
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| Linds Hanson Member Since: 16 Jan 2021 Location: Cornwall Posts: 520
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Swepco oil is the best for any gearbox
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16th May 2025 12:07pm |
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