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Mining Subsidence Stu



Member Since: 06 Mar 2024
Location: Cornwall
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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Caledonian Blue
Transfer box throwing oil out.
Transfer box (with roamerdrive) has been getting more noisy. I filled with oil and now a lot of it is on the back/underside of the car. Obviously, RD is expensive and I don't want to Censored it.

Anyone got any ideas what is likely to have blown and how much of a pain it is to sort?

I think it's the front (gearbox side) of the box, possibly higher up.

Bloody thing. This one was £20k and had a £30k (cost) restoration in 2016. It has just gone wrong over and over and over again. My 300 was fine, but rusted.
Post #1065460 14th Apr 2025 11:29am
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TexasRover



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France 2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Chawton White
I believe there is an issue with the intermediate shaft mounting hole at the front side (front of vehicle) wearing out to the point that the shaft is loose and leaking oil.

It must have something to do with the amount of load the transfer case is seeing because I opened two up and both were fine it that area. I know Ashcroft do an improvement where I think they insert a bush (sleeved casing) https://ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/produ...ed-casing/

I would look there first. On a Series transfercase excessive gear noise is normally associated with the intermediate gear bearings wearing, which by logic could be the same in an LT230 if that intermediate shaft is misalighned.

I have a roamerdrive on mine and there is no gear noise at all in drive with only the faintest whine in overrun.. Worth having I believe.
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Retroanaconda



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There are numerous places the LT230 can leak, but the front/rear output shafts and intermediate shaft are favourites.
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Mining Subsidence Stu



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I've got a full set of seals/gaskets and I'm going to have a go!
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Oldowner



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Pull it apart and check the intermediate shaft hole in the casing. I have at a guess had forty plus LT230’s apart, they all have had wear to the casing, some much more than others. On the last few I rebuilt I’ve had Ashcroft sleeve the casings which I’ve sent up to them.

You will also have to change the shims in the diff as they will be worn, it’s worth putting a HD cross pin in there, and also purchase a HD intermediate shaft to go with the new bushing.

Pm me if you want to borrow all the special tools as you are fairly local, I’ve got an LT230 to reassemble in the next two weeks, after that I won’t need them for a while.
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Mining Subsidence Stu



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Caledonian Blue
I'm just having a big cup of coffee and a relax and then I'm going to take it out. Today's job is to get it out, get it looked at and get the seals/gaskets changed.

Reassembly may be later or tomorrow. I'm going to pace myself and take it steady.

Rushing is where it gets expensive.

My westfield blew a head gasket and Mr 4AGE engines had it back and had a look at it. Cue £5000 rebuild.

I do not want to be throwing money around on this bloody thing
Post #1065642 16th Apr 2025 10:53am
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Mining Subsidence Stu



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Caledonian Blue
So. All was not as expected.

I was a bit naughty and threw some oil in it, rather than dropping the oil (any?) out.

As I took the car to bits from the top, I noticed the oil breather banjo was VERY VERY LOOSE. To the point that has caused the oil loss and the increased noise. So, I chucked a couple of litres in to see how it went and it blew it out of the under bonnet breather. At this point you are all saying "check your oil level, fool". So, I decided to read the roamerdrive manual and found the new level point. So, I opened it and a load of " Censored " came out, in terms of really runny oil. It was like water. This was with some fresh in there as well. This is 75/80 GL-4 as the OD has to have that. Anyway, yesterday, I took it out with the correct oil level in there and it wasn't ridiculously loud. Since then I've dropped the oil out of it and blown a load of fresh EP90/GL4 in there (which is gloopy). I've gone a bit over with the level for a start. Probably 300ml over. When I dropped everything out, the drain plug had virtually no swarf on it.

My gut feeling is the oil, for whatever reason, has gone really runny and then a bit of loss out of the breather has caused the excess noise.

I'm not lucky, so it will need replacement and will have taken the overdrive out whilst it was at it!
Post #1065771 18th Apr 2025 1:15pm
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