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familymad



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I like that a lot. So it's got the ladder chassis, beefy styling and Toyota build. Ineos must be gutted at the price they are pitching it...

Shame the 70 V8 update isn't coming. That's the real deal. 1951 80" S1 2.0
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RDR



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Yep if you compare this to the original design brief of the Inios Toyota are on the ball from what I can see. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
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Post #1002810 3rd Aug 2023 7:29am
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Black Puma



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This does look great. I'll get one if it lands in AU Thumbs Up
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Chicken Drumstick



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familymad wrote:
I like that a lot. So it's got the ladder chassis, beefy styling and Toyota build. Ineos must be gutted at the price they are pitching it...

Shame the 70 V8 update isn't coming. That's the real deal.

Don't see why Ineos should give two hoots tbh.

The Land Cruiser Prado has been around for decades.... and currently on sale in the UK badged as Land Cruiser (and looks completely minging). This is just the latest revision with more funky styling. Although Toyota have done this before with the FJ Cruiser, which was also Prado based.

So it is nothing new.

As for the 70 Series, well it isn't available in many markets. It is also extremely basic and 1990s plastic fantastic inside. They also cost very similar to the Grenadier but generally lower spec and lower performance. Just a reliability reputation.
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Chicken Drumstick



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RDR wrote:
Yep if you compare this to the original design brief of the Inios Toyota are on the ball from what I can see.

I think you might need to re-read the design brief.... Laughing
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spudfan



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Front puts me in mind of the Ineos Grenadier. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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Leo



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Chicken Drumstick wrote:
familymad wrote:
I like that a lot. So it's got the ladder chassis, beefy styling and Toyota build. Ineos must be gutted at the price they are pitching it...

Shame the 70 V8 update isn't coming. That's the real deal.

Don't see why Ineos should give two hoots tbh.

The Land Cruiser Prado has been around for decades.... and currently on sale in the UK badged as Land Cruiser (and looks completely minging). This is just the latest revision with more funky styling. Although Toyota have done this before with the FJ Cruiser, which was also Prado based.

So it is nothing new.

As for the 70 Series, well it isn't available in many markets. It is also extremely basic and 1990s plastic fantastic inside. They also cost very similar to the Grenadier but generally lower spec and lower performance. Just a reliability reputation.


Completely different chassis to the current 150-series.
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defender9



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Well if it’s anything like as reliable as my 1997 LC Colorado (Prado) then I may be interested. The price in the US has been touted at mid $50K for the more basic 1958 model which is all I would need. The styling is really good IMO and much better than the current LC.
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Chicken Drumstick



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Leo wrote:
Chicken Drumstick wrote:
familymad wrote:
I like that a lot. So it's got the ladder chassis, beefy styling and Toyota build. Ineos must be gutted at the price they are pitching it...

Shame the 70 V8 update isn't coming. That's the real deal.

Don't see why Ineos should give two hoots tbh.

The Land Cruiser Prado has been around for decades.... and currently on sale in the UK badged as Land Cruiser (and looks completely minging). This is just the latest revision with more funky styling. Although Toyota have done this before with the FJ Cruiser, which was also Prado based.

So it is nothing new.

As for the 70 Series, well it isn't available in many markets. It is also extremely basic and 1990s plastic fantastic inside. They also cost very similar to the Grenadier but generally lower spec and lower performance. Just a reliability reputation.


Completely different chassis to the current 150-series.

Yet still just the Prado….. I’d guess probably more of an evolution than a revolution given the similar layout and specs.
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Moo



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Cool, but no D3/4 replacement. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
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markb110



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In Scotland. Thumbs Up
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familymad



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It’s getting rave reviews. You gotta really want an Ineos now 1951 80" S1 2.0
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Post #1030279 2nd Apr 2024 9:29pm
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Moo



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There's a market for both. It just comes down to volumes.

I have a deposit down on the new Land Cruiser, but the only things that garbs me are the boot space and tailgate. Useful but I've learned to live with my Defender now and the boot's limitations, and there's something about 6 vs 4 cylinders and air suspension that I like. Thumbs Up Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
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Irish journalist review
https://www.irishtimes.com/motors/2024/04/...tro-looks/ 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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