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| ibsley Member Since: 01 Aug 2023 Location: Nimes Posts: 23   
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Hi, I'm back since fixing (I hope) a clutch issue (https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic88929.html). New problem:
Context LHD, 2008 Puma 2.4. Clutch switched for LOF power spec at garage about 6 weeks ago. Symptom Since then, have noticed a few drops of oil collecting on ground, usually (but not always) after driving more than 5 minutes. Drops seem to stop later, but it's hard to tell. Analysis Photos included which seem to indicate engine oil leak, but I'm consider myself a novice so would love to be corrected. Garage checked and said they'd need to take it in for a while and really dig in. They also say unrelated to clutch swap. I've checked engine oil and level is fine (colour is a bit dark so I will swap oil soon anyway). Questions Could this be something else? If it's the engine, where should I start looking? Is this the most likely cause of black smoke when accelerating from cold-ish (this smoke is new and I'm guessing it's oil heating up)? Any help welcome. |
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31st Oct 2023 11:09am |
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| wyvern Member Since: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2155  
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After a Clutch change there is often a possible leak from the back of the casing where the seal has not been replaced as per the LR instructions - the use of some sealant is required in specific locations on the gasket before replacing the casing ... see here -
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic78124.html  Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126  |
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31st Oct 2023 11:27am |
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| ibsley Member Since: 01 Aug 2023 Location: Nimes Posts: 23
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Always love these super fast responses! Thanks.
Of course, I should have actually included the pictures: Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Given these it would seem to be forward of the clutch and therefore not a clutch seal issue. Am I correct? If it is that seal, the interesting question is – how do I convince the garage that it's their fault, so they fix it free of charge? I want them on my side as they're the only LR garage in range for me. |
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31st Oct 2023 11:56am |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3654  
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Did the garage change the rear crank seal while they were doing the clutch?
Can have a look at this thread, it details the pain another forum member went through because the garage did not follow the assembly instructions: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic78124-15.html 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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31st Oct 2023 12:11pm |
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| wyvern Member Since: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2155
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^^^^
that is exactly what I am on about - that happend to me and the leak was in the same place as your photos - which was cured with the right placement of sealant ... As the garage to confirm that they used the exact procedure that Landrover had specified when rebuilding the casings Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126 |
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31st Oct 2023 12:48pm |
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| andy63 Member Since: 30 Jun 2023 Location: north east Posts: 840
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I replaced my clutch a couple months ago and did the crankshaft oil seal at the same time..
I got an engine oil leak almost immediately it was back on the road... So I've obviously made an ass of installing it🙄😞.. So I've got it all to do again when I can get some space in the young ones unit... Cause I don't fancy doing it all in the back lane again.. And to make matters worse I think the gearbox output or transfare input seal is also dropping a bit oil😪.. The joys.. Ehh |
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31st Oct 2023 3:47pm |
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| ibsley Member Since: 01 Aug 2023 Location: Nimes Posts: 23
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Thanks -- this is super helpful.
I'm not sure what the garage did (need to figure out what the crankshaft seal is in French first  but will keep you posted! |
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31st Oct 2023 5:07pm |
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| DJow Member Since: 29 Oct 2023 Location: Yorkshire Dales Posts: 14 
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I had the same issue when i had a LOF clutch fit. I told the garage to change the crank seal whilst they are in there. I believe they fit a britpart seal first which i noticed was leaking when i got home. I took it back and asked them to put a genuine seal in, also mentioned that others had issued with this and sealant was needed in a specific place. They told me that putting sealant in was a bodge job and refused to do it, then fit a different brand seal (wouldn’t tell me the brand). What did i find when i got home? Still leaking…
I took it back for attempt 3 and insisted on a genuine seal and the leak has stopped, no sealant on it either as they refused! |
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3rd Nov 2023 8:40pm |
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