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mattlidster



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi ST Alpine White
Rear Windows Activation 110 Hard Top
Has anyone managed to get the rear windows to open via the front switches?

So far I have rewired doors with new loom and enabled in the CCF, windows work on new switch in the rear and also work off the key fob for global opening and closing. I have put a new 4 switch in front door but it doesn't work the rear windows! Sad
Post #1007900 17th Sep 2023 8:37am
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LR Nuts



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LR do 'funny things' with 5dr commercial vehicle to stop owners converting them.

I remember the Disco 2 commercial having studs welded into rear seatbelt mounting holes.

In answer to your question, have you looked at wiring harness not being plugged into main body harness, beyond the B pillar.
Post #1007907 17th Sep 2023 9:34am
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walfy



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Re: Rear Windows Activation 110 Hard Top
mattlidster wrote:
Has anyone managed to get the rear windows to open via the front switches?

So far I have rewired doors with new loom and enabled in the CCF, windows work on new switch in the rear and also work off the key fob for global opening and closing. I have put a new 4 switch in front door but it doesn't work the rear windows! Sad


What year is your car?
Do you have a list of parts as this is something, I want to do 110 D250 SE HT
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Post #1008034 18th Sep 2023 11:56am
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mattlidster



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Mine is a 2022

Removed both rear door wiring looms completely.

Parts used so far

New wiring loom Drivers side rear door LR171801
New wiring loom Passenger side rear door LR171817 ( I think that's the right way round!)
2 X new switches LR059773
2 X new switch facias LR064090
New door Moulding round small window LR149591
New door Moulding round small window LR149592
New front door window switch with mirrors and memory seats LR130144

Changed Car Config File via IIDTool

MultiCAN-634 MovingWindows
Four Moving Windows


EUCD-109 Power Windows, Front/Rear
DCU Powered Front & Rear Windows


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Post #1008083 18th Sep 2023 7:34pm
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Hairy Dan



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Did you change
MultiCAN-634 MovingWindows
Four Moving Windows

If that's the only one you changed, what is EUCD-109 set at on your car?

On mine which is a car not the hard top mine is set as

EUCD-109 Power Windows, Front/Rear
DCU Powered Front & Rear Windows Cheers Ian
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Post #1008110 18th Sep 2023 10:12pm
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mattlidster



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I hadn't changed MultiCAN-634 MovingWindows
Four Moving Windows

Now the rear switches seem illuminated but the rear buttons in front drivers panel are not. I have a new genuine 4 switch panel coming soon so will wait and try that.

I cant believe how many settings there are in the CCF!
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Hairy Dan



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mattlidster wrote:
I cant believe how many settings there are in the CCF!


I wouldn't worry about them, they aren't all for the Defender, they cover all the newer Land Rovers and there are even some Jag one in there Laughing Cheers Ian
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Post #1008175 19th Sep 2023 5:19pm
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mattlidster



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Swapped the drivers door switchs over to one I bought on ebay for a Disco Sport and now have control of rear windows from drivers door! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Post #1008271 20th Sep 2023 5:44pm
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walfy



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So looking at the internet, if I use the parts as mentioned earlier in this thread these are the costs I found


1. New wiring loom Drivers side rear door LR171801
2. New wiring loom Passenger side rear door LR171817 ( I think that's the right way round!)
3. 2 X new switches LR059773
4. 2 X new switch facias LR064090
5. New door Moulding round small window LR149591
6. New door Moulding round small window LR149592
7. New front door window switch with mirrors and memory seats LR130144

Costs

1. £221
2. £209
3. £11 each. so £22
4. £30 each so £60
5. £61
6. £61
7. £55


For a grand total of. £689 and then the cost of the IID tool

Which makes it an expensive upgrade to just get 2 windows to open. 110 D250 SE HT
110 USW SOLD
RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it
VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys

Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD
Post #1009368 29th Sep 2023 1:38pm
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mattlidster



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Mine came in a bit less but its about that. If you just want the rear windows to open from front of car you could get away with just the 2 looms and a new front switch (I got a disco sport one for £15 from fleabay) as well as activation.
Post #1009457 30th Sep 2023 7:47am
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Paladino



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mattlidster wrote:
Swapped the drivers door switchs over to one I bought on ebay for a Disco Sport and now have control of rear windows from drivers door! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up


Could you add the the part no. or a photo of the switches you bought? Do the button to disable rear windows work? Also does the child lock button work?

Thanks
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mattlidster



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Hi I will take a picture of part number next time I have it apart.

You can buy a new one which is this one:

https://britcar.com/product.php/656309/5497/cover___door_switch

and yes the rear child lock for the windows does work.
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craigblues



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I might being stupid here. Presume you didn’t try to activate the windows for global setting before changing all the looms? Someone mentioned to me the looms are already in there for it all to work, just no switches. I’m happy to be corrected though.
Post #1015151 15th Nov 2023 10:00am
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mattlidster



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My one def did not have any spare connectors or wires in there. The old loom I took out has a different part number to the loom I fitted. It wouldn't surprise me if they occasionally use what they have on the shelf at the time so is def worth looking as you may get lucky! Thumbs Up
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craigblues



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Fair enough. Do you have any photos?

Was there anything plugged to the window motor though in rear?
Post #1015159 15th Nov 2023 10:41am
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