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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16892   
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I'd go for nice original 2-door (or, failing that, an early 4-door) if you can find one at the price.
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17th Jul 2023 12:57pm |
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| NickMc Member Since: 01 Oct 2014 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1571  
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Avoid? Sport, evoque and P38
I’d buy the older L322 shape TDV8 and keep the spare change to run and fix it. |
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17th Jul 2023 3:27pm |
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| jpboost Member Since: 13 Apr 2021 Location: Gatwick Posts: 374 
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I ran a late L322 for a couple of years.
Lovely thing, but it did have the capacity to generate some serious bills... It was the 5 litre supercharged petrol model, and a very nice condition, well maintained, low mileage example (40k miles IIRC). And it still took over 5k of maintenance in just over 2 years... I do miss it. I'd imagine an L405 are slightly better. I'd still be tempted with one. |
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17th Jul 2023 3:40pm |
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| Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 548
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£5k in maintenance is a bit vague and not really indicative of expected costs unless you can caveat it with what cost £5000.
For instance, if you only used a main dealer and paid £200-300/hr labour rates, you could whip through £5k quite quickly, even more so if paying dealer prices for parts. Or maybe it was an engine rebuild? Not knocking you, you might have been very savvy. But it is extremely easy to overpay for stuff and then claim running 'x vehicle is expensive. When there may have been other ways to get the job done. |
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17th Jul 2023 4:20pm |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074 
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I've got an L322 TDV8
As a machine its increible, pulls well, comfortable, and nothing feels like a Range Rover. I bought ours for towing and as a stop gap between Defenders. As a means of generating headaches its also increible. I DIY 99% of my car maintenance, unless you are handy on the tools and have space you will become very familiar with large bills and your Range Rover Garage or independant. They are a total and utter pain the arse to work on next to a Defender. The sheer size and weight of it means that realistically you need a lift or a vast open flat space with a very large jack. Some jobs are nice and easy, like I changed the air tank in 20 mins with two spanners. Any engine job on the TDV8's is a matter of contortion and removing lots and lots of wires, guards and trims. I miss having a Defender, but I still also love the Range Rover  |
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17th Jul 2023 5:30pm |
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| jpboost Member Since: 13 Apr 2021 Location: Gatwick Posts: 374
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No offense taken, but I'm not one to throw money around when I don't have to. My cars get everything they need, and I'm picky about the standard of work, but I'm not one to pay overpriced main dealers. It needed timing chains (This was around £2k with a good local independent, it's something mad like 8k at the dealers), supercharger nose bearing and coupler (uprated aftermarket part fitted at less than £500, but if I'd gone main dealer, they replace the whole piece at 2k+), Rear shocks, DAB module (good used one was a few hundred, but new genuine part was approaching 2k I think), Battery, Alternator, Power steering pump, Full set of 8 injectors (These were over £100 each) Front Discs and pads Tyres - 1k HID headlight unit I don't have my paperwork anymore, but even looking at the bigger bits I remember, I think my 5k estimate was a bit light! I also threw a couple of gearbox faults, and the 2 specialists I visited both said 'prepare for a gearbox rebuild in the next 5-10k miles) - a 3-4k job IIRC including Torque converter. Oh yeah, and then there was petrol. Appreciate the diesels are (a bit) better on fuel, but I was getting 15-18mpg, and on the whole drove it pretty gently. It was 7 years old and 40 k miles when I got it. Immaculate, with 2 owners and impeccable history. I was an absolutely awesome machine, and tbh I'd probably have another, but it's sensible to be aware of the potential costs. Whoever bought mine new, paid pretty much bang on £100k. The running costs of a 100k car don't decrease as it gets older. Quite the opposite. |
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17th Jul 2023 8:58pm |
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| MarkBrown Member Since: 03 Oct 2022 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 326 
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If it was my money I'd buy a nice classic, a four door, in Cairngorm Brown.
Then I'd get a fully rebuilt 4.6 V8 for it. Then I'd look at it. Then I'd drive around posing, pretending that I was a 90's prince, going to a shoot. |
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18th Jul 2023 8:12am |
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| Huttopia Member Since: 23 Feb 2016 Location: West Midlands Posts: 1968
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Don’t be afraid of the P38. That budget would get you several, but a well sorted late model is a lovely place to be and you’d have plenty in reserve for maintenance!
You could buy an over priced L322 that in 5 minutes time needs a replacement subframe….and the rust comes back through the rear arches, the tailgate bubbles and the turbos need replacement…..but Clarkson and ‘peak Range Rover’ 🤷♂️ |
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18th Jul 2023 8:25am |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: Bath Posts: 1044 
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Just to mix it up, I'd buy a Euro 6 D4. As comfy as a RR but hugely practical.
It depends what you want it for. If not, I'd get a L405. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy. |
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18th Jul 2023 9:34am |
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| donmacn Member Since: 07 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1829 |
I thought the same. I bought mine (from here) about 3, maybe four years ago now. A low mileage 2000 model year 4.0 V8. There were some chunky items to deal with initially like refurbing the front axle ends; refurbing the rear axle; new airbags and shocks, and a coolant leak from the valley gasket, and I've also done other non-essential work, but long story short it starts each turn of the key and I'm (whisper it) beginning to appreciate its reliability. I did change the old velour/fabric seats for black leather, and as you say it's a lovely place to be. Recently I've been fully-focussed on other stuff and it was my 'daily' from about Christmas through to the end of June. Doing work trips, high and low box stuff, and just behaved impeccably. Not just my word for it either - because the DVLA no longer send paper reminders I'd let the MOT lapse - by about 3 months  When I realised, I checked the lights, filled the washer bottle and stuck it in. Sailed through, no advisories.
It's really beginning to grow on me. (Edit. In the context of this thread I should say that it cost me just £1000. I've done absolutely all of the work myself which is pretty manageable on a P38 if I can do it. I've probably spent about another £3k in parts and stuff though as I've said some of that could definitely be considered optional). Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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18th Jul 2023 10:31am |
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| jim4244 Member Since: 13 Apr 2014 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 641  
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My everyday drive is a 2005 Vogue TD6.
Easy enough to maintain yourself. Cheap to buy and all parts readily available on EBay. The M57 BMW engine is bullet proof but the gearbox requires regular oil changes to stop it eating itself. I’ve had her for 5 years, covered 30,000 miles and in that time have replaced track rod ends, upper and lower from suspension arms and changed the tyres. Superbly comfortable, safe, 28 mpg average and just a nice place to be on a long journey.  Click image to enlarge Jim |
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18th Jul 2023 12:42pm |
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| martinf Member Since: 30 Nov 2020 Location: Sussex Posts: 96
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I have had 5 range rovers, all bought new over the last 25 years. The best was the most recent, an L405 which I bought in 2016. It had the 3 litre diesel which was fine until it had a software update which resulted in the need for oil changes due to oil dilution every 5 or 6 thousand miles. The electric tailgate became a bit unreliable because it had a lot of use with our dogs.
Otherwise it was a lovely car and I got £30k when I sold it in 2021 so an L405 should be available within budget. Do get one with a full service history and I always had the LR extended warranty once the initial warranty expired as repairs can be very expensive. Good luck with you search. |
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18th Jul 2023 6:11pm |
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