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ZeDefender



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Miserableolgit wrote:
Fitted one to mine today


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Same as mine - very smart Thumbs Up Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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...and here is mine.


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so which is the better one to have?

seems to be just a hand full of makers of the muff,i like the idea of the open ,half and fully open ones .as opposed to the iether open or closeed
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Perhaps it's worth bearing in mind that "open" is already partly closed, due to the wide frame of these muffs. I expect these things are only intended for winter when either closed or (half)open are the only sensible options... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Doesn't it come down to which way they roll: up or down?

The ones that roll up will tend to keep the intercooler covered (unless fully opened) as it is mounted in the top half - the ones that roll down will tend to favour the intercooler free air flow first while keeping the engine radiator covered.

The differences may perhaps only be small as there is bound to be a lot of turbulence
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Just found this on ebag, does them in pvc also. Should amgine the canvas one would get pretty dirty this time of year
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Defen...1c22056155


ANYONE GOT ONE OF THESE
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NO. Sorry, no. But I have made enquiries about buying a PVC one. Looking at the details on the website, it seems to be better secured that the Exmoor Trim one, and also includes a fly mesh, which is a bonus given the recent discussions about chaff guards. Darren

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SteveS wrote:
Doesn't it come down to which way they roll: up or down?

The ones that roll up will tend to keep the intercooler covered (unless fully opened) as it is mounted in the top half - the ones that roll down will tend to favour the intercooler free air flow first while keeping the engine radiator covered.

The differences may perhaps only be small as there is bound to be a lot of turbulence


The one I have can be fitted either way up. I've got it so that it rolls down thinking that it doesn't matter if the fasteners holding the flap open fail - the other way up and if the fasteners fail the flap will roll down and close the aperture. Steve.
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They look like nappies Cool
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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
NO. Sorry, no. But I have made enquiries about buying a PVC one. Looking at the details on the website, it seems to be better secured that the Exmoor Trim one, and also includes a fly mesh, which is a bonus given the recent discussions about chaff guards.

spoke to him the other day seem to a good bit of kit and like you say better fixings and a mesh screen.
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By coincidence, I spoke to him yesterday and I'm just about to send a cheque off for one. I've asked him if he can make one in dark grey to match the grill Cool Darren

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Well, my 'Globe Roamer' rad muff arrived today. My idea of a grey one didn't pan out as the grey available was too light, so I went for an ordinary black one. I've just come in from the garage after fitting it and I'm pretty pleased with the result. The pictures aren't brilliant as it's dark, but I hope they give the idea:


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It's well made and a very good fit. It's much better secured than the rubbish clip-on one from Exmoor Trim that I sent back and is much cheaper too, which is nice Smile The opening flap is secured by zips rather than velcro, which is easier to use, and the open area is much bigger for those times when it is required to be open. It also incorporates a mesh across the open area, which helps the whole thing keep its' shape and keeps smaller debris/insects out of the rad itself.

Bearing in mind that this is a new product from a 'one man and his idea' operation, I have got a few observations, which I've also passed on to the vendor. In order to fit the thing it's necessary to separate the grill from the surround. It then hooks over all four corners and the four lugs on the top of the grill that hold it into the frame. However, the instructions are written to suit earlier models on which the grill is secured with screws and it doesn't quite work in the same way with the plastic fir trees used on later models. The six brass rimmed holes on the sides are intended to enable the grill to be screwed back on, but the fir trees don't really fit through those holes. Not an insurmountable problem, but it did require a bit of fiddling and faffing to get it done.

The only other issue was that when it arrived, it had the words 'Globe Roamer' stencilled in 4 inch high white letters across the mesh. I'm afraid some matt black spray paint took care of that Rolling Eyes

Tomorrow morning will be the test of how well it works and I'll get a couple of better pictures. Darren

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Here are a couple of pics in the daylight:


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It made a very noticeable difference to the warm-up time this morning, with the needle moving off the bottom of the guage in about a quarter of a mile. Haven't done a long enough run to see if it needs to be left cracked open slightly yet. Darren

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Is there a way it can be placed half way closed or is it either fully open and fully closed?
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