 | Home > For Sale & Wanted > [Wanted] A Defender 110/130 USW, DC or Hardtop (Commercial) |
 
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 854   
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I'm looking to buy a vehicle for my business, and for various reasons it will need to be classified as a "van" by the DVLA. Logic would dictate that I buy an actual van, but I'm comfortable with the quirks of Defenders, and the ability to tow 3500kg etc is handy.
Whilst my knowledge of Land Rovers is reasonably comprehensive, classifications for tax purposes are new to me. My understanding is that it will need to have a payload in excess of 1000kg, and be "A vehicle primarily constructed for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description". Update Following some further reading, and consideration I have narrowed my search down to the following, in order of preference: 1. 110 USW 2. 110 Hardtop 3. 130 DC 4. 110 DC 5. 110 Pick up / Hi-Cap Since the USW was only introduced post 2007, I am principally looking at Pumas (logically 2.2s for the reduced N1 tax class). However, I would consider any age or spec hardtop or DC within reason providing it that it meets the following criteria: - Can be classed as a van as per the above. - Excellent condition, both mechanically and cosmetically i.e. not a project. The following would be nice, but are not deal-breakers: - Electric windows - Air con - Roll cage - Galvanised chassis, bulkhead etc. Let me know if you think you have something that may be of interest. TIA. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread Series 2 109" Series 1 80" Last edited by Shroppy on 8th May 2024 7:24pm. Edited 5 times in total |
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17th Apr 2024 7:45am |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 854
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Bump. Updated search criteria. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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7th May 2024 12:53pm |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 854
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Good point, if I'm not mistaken, a USW would need to be classed as N1 for it to be considered a van. I think that came in for MY2010 but could be wrong? 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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7th May 2024 1:32pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16909 
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A factory-built USW should be classed as N1 irrespective of age, but being classed as N1 does not guarantee for any vehicle that it will meet the HMRC's very particular criteria for commercial status.
HMRC seems to make up the rules as it goes along on a day-by-day basis. I don't think that there were ever any factory-built USWs prior to the introduction of the TDCi, so you won't find a TD5 or 300TDi factory USW. |
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7th May 2024 2:43pm |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 854
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Thanks Blackwolf. It sounds like a 110 Hardtop/Pickup or Hi-Cap might be the best then, difficult to argue that they are anything but "constructed for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description" when there are no rear seats/doors I would hope? 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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7th May 2024 2:55pm |
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| stanley Member Since: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Dorset /hampshire Posts: 1029 
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https://www.disco4.com/forum/sale-defender...08059.html
Over on the Discovery 4 sister site |
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7th May 2024 3:04pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16909
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That doesn't look a bad buy if you can stomach the ghastly chequer-plate, but I am puzzled that someone's managed a "DPF delete" on a 58 plate 2.4 which never had a DPF in the first place! I guess the vendor means "decat" but is confused by the difference between a DPF and a cat.
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7th May 2024 5:43pm |
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| FireTom Member Since: 26 Nov 2023 Location: Poole Posts: 9 
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I have a 2.2 110 USW for sale. Def N1 class. Santorini black, 47,500 miles £28k can send pics if interested. Got a few nice bits on and just the other week a lof output shaft.
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7th May 2024 10:56pm |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 854
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Thanks Tom, if you could PM or email some photos please, that would be great.
I have also revised the wanted ad to reflect my updated search criteria. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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8th May 2024 12:36pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16909
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I believe that all of the variants you list, which are the "commercial" variants, are N1 with the 2.4 engine, (certainly my 2007 110 DC is) and that only the station wagons (non-USW) were M1. Edited for typo - a 1.4 litre Defender would be disappointing, I meant, of course, 2.4 litre. Now corrected. Last edited by blackwolf on 8th May 2024 4:52pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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8th May 2024 1:21pm |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 854
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Even better! Thanks blackwolf 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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8th May 2024 1:40pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16909
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There's a spectacular Puma double cab for sale in this thread!
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8th May 2024 6:19pm |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 627  
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My 2008 USW is M1. I have the original order booking bill and it states Utility Station Wagon.
It all seems a bit of a minefield. 2008 2.4 110 Utility XS. |
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8th May 2024 7:23pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16909
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Interesting, perhaps then it was just the HT and DC that were N1.
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8th May 2024 7:26pm |
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