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Shroppy



Member Since: 25 Feb 2016
Location: Shropshire
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United Kingdom 1986 Defender 130 V8 Petrol HCPU Aintree Green
[Wanted] A commercial Defender 110
I'm looking to buy a vehicle for my business, and for various reasons it will need to be classified as a "van" by the DVLA. Logic would dictate that I buy an actual van, but I'm comfortable with the quirks of Defenders, and the ability to tow 3500kg etc is handy.

Whilst my knowledge of Land Rovers is reasonably comprehensive, classifications for tax purposes are new to me. My understanding is that it will need to have a payload in excess of 1000kg, and be "A vehicle primarily constructed for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description". Or, be classed as N1?

Anyway, on the basis of the above, I think I'm in the market for one of the following:

- 110 USW
- 110 DC
- 110 Hardtop / Pickup
- 110 Hi-Cap

Open to pretty well anything providing that it meets the following criteria:

- Can be classed as a van as per the above.
- Good condition, both mechanically and cosmetically i.e. not a project.

The following would be nice, but are not deal-breakers:

- Electric windows
- Air con
- 300tdi or Td5
- Roll cage
- Galvanised chassis, bulkhead etc.

Let me know if you think you have something that may be of interest. TIA. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109"
Series 1 80"


Last edited by Shroppy on 7th May 2024 1:40pm. Edited 3 times in total
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Shroppy



Member Since: 25 Feb 2016
Location: Shropshire
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United Kingdom 1986 Defender 130 V8 Petrol HCPU Aintree Green
Bump. Updated search criteria. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109"
Series 1 80"
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CarMan



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I'm not comfortable that a USW meets the van criteria as HMRC say it must not have windows/seats behind the driver's but others will disagree, so make sure you satisfy yourself. Rob

1993 200tdi 90 hard-top
1998 300tdi 90 soft-top
2016 2.2 XS 90 hard-top
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Shroppy



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United Kingdom 1986 Defender 130 V8 Petrol HCPU Aintree Green
Good point, if I'm not mistaken, a USW would need to be classed as N1 for it to be considered a van. I think that came in for MY2010 but could be wrong? 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109"
Series 1 80"
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
A factory-built USW should be classed as N1 irrespective of age, but being classed as N1 does not guarantee for any vehicle that it will meet the HMRC's very particular criteria for commercial status.

HMRC seems to make up the rules as it goes along on a day-by-day basis.

I don't think that there were ever any factory-built USWs prior to the introduction of the TDCi, so you won't find a TD5 or 300TDi factory USW.
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Shroppy



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United Kingdom 1986 Defender 130 V8 Petrol HCPU Aintree Green
Thanks Blackwolf. It sounds like a 110 Hardtop/Pickup or Hi-Cap might be the best then, difficult to argue that they are anything but "constructed for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description" when there are no rear seats/doors I would hope? 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109"
Series 1 80"
Post #1034072 7th May 2024 2:55pm
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stanley



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
That doesn't look a bad buy if you can stomach the ghastly chequer-plate, but I am puzzled that someone's managed a "DPF delete" on a 58 plate 2.4 which never had a DPF in the first place! I guess the vendor means "decat" but is confused by the difference between a DPF and a cat.
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FireTom



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black
I have a 2.2 110 USW for sale. Def N1 class. Santorini black, 47,500 miles £28k can send pics if interested. Got a few nice bits on and just the other week a lof output shaft.
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