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| 34064 Member Since: 12 Dec 2023 Location: South Central Posts: 95   
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Good Evening,
Currently looking at awning ideas for my pop top 110 build and just looking for some advice on others experiences. I have thought I would quite like the idea and simplicity of a 270 but I feel that having a awning over the rear door i.e 1.4 and a room would provide us a bit of extra space and possibly and indoor area to cook and shelter from the weather where as a 270 you have no side protection. Just curious to see what you guys think about it having two pull out awnings that take longer or have a simple 270 Many thanks in advance Tom 110 Td5 Ex Utilities slowly converting into a pop top camper one day Build thread:https://www.defender2.net/forum/post1024784.html#1024784 |
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7th Apr 2024 6:47pm |
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| Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1528
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i have a small one over the rear on the 90 and will be going for a 270 on the new truck but they are a tad big and heavy but useful.
mate has a 180 thats a doddle to set up as well and that works well depends on what you need it for really |
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8th Apr 2024 3:13pm |
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| db950 Member Since: 01 Feb 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 559 
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Yeah, I’ve had both and they each have their uses.
The pull out ones are a bit awkward to set up on your own but a decent size space underneath. With a side and rear one you’d have a gap between the two. Currently have the Alu Cab 270 and can’t fault it (apart from the cost!) it gets put up probably more often than needed because it’s so easy. It is free standing but does have legs if needed but I’ve never used them unless putting the side walls up. The side wall kit is stupidly expensive and over engineered causing it to weigh a ridiculous amount, I just take two sides with me now and put them up on the awning where needed for shade/shelter. Lots of different options and prices out there but can only vouch for what I’ve used which is the ARB side awning, the Fiamma F35pro side awning and the Alu Cab 270 all been good pieces of kit. 1997 Ex-MOD 110, Pop Top Camper, build thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72352.html 2014 Discovery 4 SE Tech Instagram @the110camper |
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8th Apr 2024 9:16pm |
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| steveww Member Since: 05 Jan 2022 Location: Uppingham Posts: 537 
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I used to have a side awning but it was a real faff to put up/down single handed. I've now got a Bush Company 270 awning. It is self supporting and is a doddle to put up/down single handed. I have a single side wall panel that can optionally be used to block low sun or horizontal rain. If it gets a bit windy it comes with a set of guy ropes to stop it taking off.
The 270 awnings are pricey but well worth it. https://www.lvboverland.com/product/270xt-awning/ |
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9th Apr 2024 11:33am |
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| 34064 Member Since: 12 Dec 2023 Location: South Central Posts: 95
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Thanks for all the replies it's definitely an interesting subject I think deep down it will end up being a 270 due to ease of use. But it's nice to hear real world experiences of them as I've never had an awning as my old Discovery we used the roof tent annexe for shelter and never needed an awning but with the defender being a pop top just working out some outdoor ideas 110 Td5 Ex Utilities slowly converting into a pop top camper one day
Build thread:https://www.defender2.net/forum/post1024784.html#1024784 |
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9th Apr 2024 1:02pm |
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| Hendrix Member Since: 04 Oct 2016 Location: North Notts Posts: 103  
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We have had both and prefer the 270. Agree with comments above but also we find with side awning doesnt take long for the sun to move round and you loose a lot of the shade. We have the side pieces but must admit probably waisted our money as the only time we use them is for extra shelter when cooking in windy and driving rain type conditions. Andy
1996 300TDI 110 SW 2013 TDCI 110 Utility |
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13th Apr 2024 6:37am |
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| 34064 Member Since: 12 Dec 2023 Location: South Central Posts: 95
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Thanks I need to do some research into 270s I would like one that I can have a few walls for but not the whole set up 110 Td5 Ex Utilities slowly converting into a pop top camper one day
Build thread:https://www.defender2.net/forum/post1024784.html#1024784 |
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13th Apr 2024 10:49pm |
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| Jabberwocky Member Since: 27 Oct 2021 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 195 
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I have the ostrich wing 270 and despite a couple of small issues it’s great, it’s longer at 2.7 metres than most others so you get a larger area when open, it comes with only one leg and no tie downs, I’ve bought 2 extra legs and the tie disown kit which is great, you can buy side panels but I haven’t bothered, worth noting you can buy one panel and it will fit any section as they are the same length and are attached by a chunky zip.
It’s worth looking at the layouts of different awnings as some tend to be more down the side of a vehicle, some more towards the rear, and some like mine are in between, worth looking at which you prefer |
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14th Apr 2024 10:49am |
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| steveww Member Since: 05 Jan 2022 Location: Uppingham Posts: 537
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Bush Company 270 XT awning, fully self supporting. Dead easy to put up/down.
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14th Apr 2024 11:02am |
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| Jabberwocky Member Since: 27 Oct 2021 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 195
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I looked at one of these at a show, very impressed, unfortunately too short for my vehicle as I have windows where it would have to be attached, on a normal Land Rover it’s the one I’d have.
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14th Apr 2024 11:13am |
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| alwoodley72 Member Since: 14 Mar 2010 Location: salisbury, wilts Posts: 720 
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We cheat…
Click image to enlarge The Hannibal spider is the first thing to go up as it literally takes 2 minutes, then you’ve shelter to set everything else up.. as it’s unsupported it’s fantastic to work under too.. Cheers alex 98 300 tdi 90 project 94 Range Rover vogue 4.2 lse 79 911 sc 08 130 double cab utility |
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14th Apr 2024 4:21pm |
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| 34064 Member Since: 12 Dec 2023 Location: South Central Posts: 95
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Thanks for the replies very helpful now need to save up and start looking at some thanks for the photos aswell really help out 110 Td5 Ex Utilities slowly converting into a pop top camper one day
Build thread:https://www.defender2.net/forum/post1024784.html#1024784 |
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15th Apr 2024 9:12am |
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| Andrew95 Member Since: 27 Jul 2022 Location: Midlands Posts: 58 
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I echo what everyone has said. We have owned a few awnings over the years and I have put my thoughts below (in order of ownership). One thing to remember is most are designed as sun shades first and foremost!
ARB Pull Out (we have had both the wind break / side panel and full room with this) Pros: + Small pack size + Fairly light weight + Always seemed very sturdy in the wind + The full room makes for a clean bug free area + Good quality materials Cons: - Not as much 'dry' area as you think when the rain starts blowing! And I expect the rear awning would have even less. - They can be put up by one person, but not the easiest to do so - If you are using it in conjunction with the rear pull out then you have an exposed triangle area - It could get a bit 'flappy' and would have benefited from extra tie down points Ventura 270 (a lot of people dismiss them as being 'cheap Chinese rubbish' - we bought it for £100 second hand off a friend as it was too cheap to say no to! It served us very well and for the price (even new) I can't fault it) Pros: + Very lightweight (also see cons) + Cheap, if damage did occur then its not something you would end up crying about. + The bracket was full metal construction which even some mid range awnings (ARB for example) use plastic brackets) + It does a full 270deg, quite a few 270 do not cover the rear door fully Cons: - Lightweight cheap material, when pegged down fully it was fine, but if not it was very 'flappy' - Storage bag was not waterproof - Poles were separate and as its not self supporting you would benefit from a second person to put the poles in as you open it. Tuff Trek Speedwing 270 (Full disclaimer, we had a few issues with ours turning up damaged and decided on another option so we never got chance to use it properly. We saw a friend us a Howling Moon Swing Awn which looks identical in construction) Pro: + Really thick material + Has some sort of reflective backing on the material to reduce heat build up + Legs and guys stow in the arms making it really easy to put up Con: - Support arms appear weak in construction (lots of weight from the thick canvas) with no bracing - Very heavy Terrafirma Terradactyl 270 (This is our current awning and have found it a really good balance between price vs quality) Pro: + Very strong arm design with support bracing + Arm design makes it self supporting (I wouldn't use it like this in strong wind) + Seems very sturdy when tied down in strong wind + Good quality material (similar in thickness to ARB) + Legs stow in the arms making it easy to put up Con: - Not quite 270 with small gap at rear door (this seems common with 270's) - Unless packed away right its quite bulky Special mention Bush Company 270 We were on a camp just before christmas with a friend who had one with sides and it stood up to some outstanding winds 30-40mph - gusting 50+. We put it down in the end and went to the pub as it was getting worse and there is no point breaking things. But I am amazed at how well it stood up to wind. The flip side of that is its big, heavy and expensive! --- I think overall our favourite awning is the TF Teradactyl - Its a really good balance between everything. We were looking at getting the Alucab self supporting, but for the amount of times we would use it vs. cost it would not have made sense. For a while we thought about keeping the ARB and getting a second rear awning as we loved the ARB. The thing that put us off is that its just a lot of effort (and I am lazy!) and I am not sure how much we would use the rear awning. I am not sure if they do one or not, but if they do an awning room for the small rear awning, that would be a brilliant combination for our setup as a camper. |
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17th Apr 2024 12:39pm |
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| dan.mwilliams Member Since: 11 Dec 2022 Location: South Wales Posts: 3  
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Just to throw this in the pile…I was having the same dilemma. I ended up going with a tarp over the rear door. It solved a few issues with awnings for me. Mainly wind and rain shelter. And the price is very favourable too (currently £120)It also packs up in to a sleeping bag sized bag (and very easy to throw up with one person) and survived a few high wind and heavy rain outings.
https://wildbounds.com/products/waypoint-t...ingerbread Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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23rd Apr 2024 12:36am |
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