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| Steve_overland Member Since: 14 Oct 2018 Location: Gaydon Posts: 285   
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Watching with interest … @steve_overland on Insta.
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2nd Jan 2024 4:38pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7687 
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I have both in my 110 and my 130.
110, thermo top c and airtop 2000. 130 later engine heater, can't remember model but it has seperate water pump for easier installation. An air top off a narrow boat 4500kw from memory. 130 being bigger internal space.( edited to add: Sorry 4.5kw as highlighted in an interesting way below) All have their own dedicated pickup into the tank through the fuel pump/sender housing. Both tdcis Both vehicles run heaters off 2nd battery. Lots of pics.on install on my '130 itch' post on here. Cheers James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop Last edited by jst on 2nd Jan 2024 10:51pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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2nd Jan 2024 8:53pm |
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| v8bob Member Since: 14 Mar 2018 Location: Midlands Posts: 305 
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I am a little baffled by the need for so much heating capacity in a small area.
Surely one heater, at around 4-5kw, and possibly a similar size backup or spare would be more than sufficient? Don’t you need concentrate on insulation and possibly heat recovery from any ventilation system? |
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2nd Jan 2024 10:11pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7687
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Very astute of you on my typo. Cheers
James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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2nd Jan 2024 10:50pm |
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| NickMc Member Since: 01 Oct 2014 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1571  
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Has anyone tried the Chinese versions? You could buy a fair few before you even get near to the price.
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2nd Jan 2024 11:57pm |
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| Ianb Member Since: 25 Oct 2023 Location: Devon Posts: 199
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Watching with interest - specifically thermo top c.
I second the need for insulation. We spent a couple nights in ours prior to any insulation but with a diesel heater, the condensation was a massive issue and the heat dissipation was huge. We've since spent a lot of hours insulating, carpeting and currently rebuilding cabinets/bed etc. Basically it's a very small space, so heating it doesn't take too long, but heat retention is the biggest challenge (we believe anyway).. @v8bob The thermo top c would be an engine preheater (or at least what I am looking for) - designed to stop the engine becoming frozen - From what I gather, you run it for a couple hours prior to starting up and it is supposed to bring the engine up to an ambient temp which makes starting easier and in some cases makes it possible! The Yeti - 110 Camper https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic90308.html https://www.youtube.com/@YetitheDefender |
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3rd Jan 2024 12:19am |
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| Inguz Member Since: 06 Sep 2020 Location: In the wild Posts: 96 |
I've thought of looking into the Chinese ones, but the prices for a used Webasto are so cheap I didn't see the point. Webasto are also well built |
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3rd Jan 2024 6:14am |
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| Inguz Member Since: 06 Sep 2020 Location: In the wild Posts: 96 |
This is exactly what I want to do. Also had the same idea of using the webasto an heat exchanger for showers. Which heat exchanger do you have? I've been looking at the Glind ones. |
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3rd Jan 2024 6:43am |
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| Steve_overland Member Since: 14 Oct 2018 Location: Gaydon Posts: 285
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I have a Glind ready to go… does anyone have a plumbing diagram of how they fitted this into a coolant system with a pre heater…. @steve_overland on Insta.
110 expedition vehicle with pop roof |
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3rd Jan 2024 10:50am |
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| mata Member Since: 24 Jan 2014 Location: Manchester Posts: 148
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Im getting the bits together to put a thermotop c in my 110. I had a fair bit of experience with this model as it was oem fitted in my old 5 series bmw, theyre cheap second hand and easy to work on. I got one from an e53 x5 bmw and was planning on fitting an aftermarket PCB controller however only after it iarrived i realised it didnt come with a water pump as theyre a seperate item on the e53. Looking for a pump, bracket cable and bits i decided to just buy another thermotop c but from a freelander as it was the same price so i now have a spare glowplug and body, plus the freelnder pcb will probably do what the aftermarket one i was going to fit will do - primerialy fire the heater on a switced 12v rather than needing k-line/w-bus.
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3rd Jan 2024 7:20pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 7687
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A generic off the shelf ebay heat exchanger. Can't recall.size now, may be I that thread. Mine is webasto out to beat exchanger to engine to heater to webasto Cheers James 110 XS Utility 130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making) 90 Puma Hardtop |
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4th Jan 2024 3:54pm |
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| sako243 Member Since: 08 Jul 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 1188  
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Put a "12kW" one in the 110 and suffice to say it's almost way too powerful but then I was factoring in Chinese kW. Seems to be very well built and for £69 can't really complain.
Only use it for preheating the 110 when it's been frozen. Kept a separate diesel tank because the 110 will hopefully be going petrol in the near future. A friend of mine had a really smart idea which was a catch can on the return line to the fuel tank. Fuel in at the top, overflow to tank at the top and Webasto feed from the bottom. Three litres and is enough to run it for 48h. Run out and simply fire up the vehicle and the catch can quickly refills. Didn't need to faff with installing secondary pickups into the tank. Ed 82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6 95 Defender 110 300Tdi |
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4th Jan 2024 8:08pm |
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| Steve_overland Member Since: 14 Oct 2018 Location: Gaydon Posts: 285
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One thing I would highly recommend is a carbon monoxide alarm if camping in the vehicle just in case the heater exhaust is not able to escape for any reason your alarm wakes you before it’s to late ….. deep snow for example … @steve_overland on Insta.
110 expedition vehicle with pop roof |
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5th Jan 2024 9:23pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19579
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Very much agree with the above, it’s been known for people to expire due to having a tent BBQ (bringing it inside after use or indoor use) as well for the very same reason with Carbon Monoxide. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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6th Jan 2024 9:39pm |
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