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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816   
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13th Aug 2016 4:07pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2290  
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Hello driver
Put in 2.2lts (Service Fill)...this must be a measured quantity... NOT filled until it runs from the filler plug... 
(Looks like a previous service maybe did just that...  )
Click image to enlarge Good Luck SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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13th Aug 2016 4:17pm |
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| driver Member Since: 02 Aug 2009 Location: bude , cornwall Posts: 204 
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Yes, I measured out 2.2L exactly to go back in to the gear box I only had 3L in the first place and have almost a full litre bottle left.
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13th Aug 2016 5:14pm |
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| driver Member Since: 02 Aug 2009 Location: bude , cornwall Posts: 204
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Last time the gearbox was touched it was by a Land Rover main dealer when they replaced the clutch back in 2011, I think I might be having a chat with them on Monday.
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13th Aug 2016 5:16pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2290
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13th Aug 2016 6:03pm |
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| AlanH Member Since: 15 Mar 2010 Location: WA Posts: 242 
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I wouldn't waste my breath if I were you. I had a new transfer box under warranty and specifically asked the workshop foreman at the stealers to ensure the adaptor shaft was greased while it was out. "It is not a service item" he said in a curry take-away voice......
Recently I had the adaptor shaft changed and guess what, lots of red rust and worn splines with no evidence of grease ever having been on it! What sort of mechanics do they employ in the factory or dealers who put these things together? I was going to approach them about it but really don't think it's worth even asking why even though my handbook says what type of grease should be used! AlanH. |
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14th Aug 2016 10:04am |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2557 
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Why pay a fortune and have idiots work on your car? Do it yourself, at least then you know it's done right.
Though the new gearbox design doesn't make it easy, a level plug is fairly idiot proof in the grand scheme of things. Measured quantities requires someone with more than two brain cells to rub together to actually read the manual - a quality not possessed by many 'service technicians'. |
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14th Aug 2016 10:09am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324 
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How does 4L even get in there? Impressive.
Does the volume get that much wider in the area between the 2.2l level and the fill plug? Did they fill it with the vehicle on an incline?? Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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14th Aug 2016 11:24am |
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| AlanH Member Since: 15 Mar 2010 Location: WA Posts: 242
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That's why I do all my basic servicing. The independent mechanic who does things like the shaft change is very good, but I'd rather do those things I can like oil changes, while I still can.
If I had a pit in the garage it would make things easier but as I haven't I'm quite willing to pay his price and know the jobs been done right. The stealer gets nothing from me. AlanH. |
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14th Aug 2016 11:25am |
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| driver Member Since: 02 Aug 2009 Location: bude , cornwall Posts: 204
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Yes it will fit,
All I can think of is they double filled it !!! like you say if it was a level plug the land rover mechanic (looses sense of the term) would have seen it was pouring out and realised his mistake. This is what came out the green Castrol container is full to the top Click image to enlarge |
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14th Aug 2016 12:20pm |
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| keef9t Member Since: 13 Mar 2016 Location: manchester Posts: 168
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Always do my own oil changes. Never had a new defender, so no main dealers experiences. First thing I do is change all the oils when I buy a Defender, using the correct specifications. The previous owner of my Puma 2.4 had a couple of vans in his business and used a local garage to service his L/R also. When I took out the gearbox filler plug, the old oil gushed out. I estimate there was about 3.5 litres in there. Clearly the garage wasn't up to speed with Puma gearbox oil capacity.
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14th Aug 2016 6:59pm |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324
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Since we're on the topic I'll ask a couple of tangential questions:
- If you have a vehicle that is new to you, or one that you may suspect a leak (when warm etc.) how can you check the level is correct?(I remember putting in a cable tie as a dip stick after I filled it and it was less than an inch from the fill plug, but I've since lost that measurement...) - What are the short-term/long-term effects on the gearbox if you overfill it? It's not simply redundant cost is it? Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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14th Aug 2016 7:27pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2290
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Over filling can be as bad as under filling or running on low oil, having lost (leaked) its correct quantity.
Drain Plug to Fill Plug = Correct Quantity 
The simple approach of removing the fill plug first (so you know you can refill it... )
then removing the drain plug...and then filling up to the fill plug is a fairly full proof method and its a shame the Puma MT82 Gearbox doesn't follow this long established 'general' approach...
Too much oil can lead to excessive pressures within a gearbox, with overheating problems. Best and clearest advice I read, was within the instructions for my Cement Mixer...
(2nd outing on D2N for this piece of wisdom... ) SKIP
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14th Aug 2016 8:16pm |
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| keef9t Member Since: 13 Mar 2016 Location: manchester Posts: 168
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So if your gearbox sounds like a cement mixer with oil, everything is ok !
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14th Aug 2016 9:22pm |
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