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ARC99



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
Whine from rear end
Over the last two months what was a strange noise at the rear has now developed into a whine which increases with speed and has increased in volume.
At first I thought that it was tyre noise, pressures checked and they were OK.

I now suspect that it is Diff wind up but as the Defender is only used on the road and it not driven hard enough to spin the wheels I fail to see who this could be.

Before I take it into the cleaners and have to apply for a large loan does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do to try and sort it out?

P.S. I did take S.H.M.B.O. out of the vehicle and it still make the noise. Very Happy Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #534586 25th May 2016 4:16pm
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Happyoldgit



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IS the noise the same when the vehicle is both under load and on overrun and have you tried knocking it into neutral when you are going along so that it's just coasting and seeing if it still whines then?

I'd check the easy things first like fluid levels, Check the prop uj's & lubricate, check the transmission brake isn't binding, wheel bearings etc. Steve.
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Post #534613 25th May 2016 5:48pm
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ARC99



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
I know the wheel bearing are fine , Diff oil checked 3 weeks ago, same sound both under load and on over run.

I can still remember the last time I free wheeled a vehicle, 1970 , Chimney Bank, Rosedale , change of undergarments for all occupants, non servo and only shoes for brakes which got hot and faded. I'll give it try on more level ground. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #534640 25th May 2016 7:47pm
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Riccarton



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Sounds strange (IMHO) for it to sound the same both under load and on over-run. Did you inspect the oil when you dropped it? For the cost of it I'd drop the oil again and look for debris / particles.

Rear diff' certainly isn't a difficult thing to change so you could save plenty of £££s by DIY Thumbs Up
Post #534655 25th May 2016 8:26pm
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Lancerdoc999



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could it be coming from your exhaust??? I'm sure my exhaust has a midl whining noise coming from it and have always wondered if that is normal!
Post #534685 25th May 2016 9:47pm
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nickhodgson



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If you want to determine if its the front or rear diff, put the car in diff lock, then remove the front propshaft and go for a drive. Then replace the front and remove the rear propshaft. If the noise is there when only one of the propshafts is removed then you know that the diff which is still connected is the problem. If its there during both then look elsewhere. 1995 300tdi Defender 90 P/UP
2011 Puma Defender 130 D/C
2000 300tdi Defender 110 P/UP
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Post #534801 26th May 2016 10:25am
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Marks Landy



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Had the same issue last week (8000miles) with mine, the dealer was convinced it was the wheel bearing protesting but ended up changing the half shafts and the bearing.
All fixed.
Post #534804 26th May 2016 10:48am
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Stacey007



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If its the Diffs


Is that a big / expensive job to change?
Post #534832 26th May 2016 12:19pm
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Riccarton



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Scotland 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Zambezi Silver
Rear diff' is expensive but not a huge job (just because of LR parts costs) - front diff' is a little more involved. Personally, unless it was done under warranty I wouldn't consider LR parts - I'd go straight to Ashcrofts Thumbs Up
Post #534850 26th May 2016 1:25pm
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nitram17



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Sorry arc but mine whines from both ends..she only really stops when her mouths full! Laughing
Post #535030 26th May 2016 10:40pm
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DonH2000



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
By any chance is the mother in law in the back? Cheers Don.
Post #535231 27th May 2016 7:34pm
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ARC99



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
Sorry folks I have not been ignoring the replies just to busy.

I know its the back as my ears tell me so. I have checked with both of them.

Its still there when the wife gets out.

The mother in law died some 20 years ago so it cannot be her.

The diff oil was nearly as clean as it was when I put it in 6 months ago.

The only other time I have heard such a noise was from an army truck tyres. I may swap front and rear tyres to see if the noise then comes from the front. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #535275 27th May 2016 9:05pm
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AlanH



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I had a strange whining noise which was very hard to pick where from on my 2010 110 a couple of years back. Sounded a bit like bag pipes .... which I like generally but not from under the vehicle. Razz
I picked rear diff, cook reckoned engine and someone else said gearbox. Took it back to the stealers for a check while other warranty stuff was being fixed and they said transfer box. That was at 98K kilometres.
At that mileage (kilometerage?) they would normally have changed it for a recon box but as none were available in Oz they put a new one in.
Noise gone and I was happy vegemite...... for a while. Laughing
AlanH.
Post #535338 28th May 2016 8:44am
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ARC99



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
Happyoldgit wrote:
IS the noise the same when the vehicle is both under load and on overrun and have you tried knocking it into neutral when you are going along so that it's just coasting and seeing if it still whines then?

I'd check the easy things first like fluid levels, Check the prop uj's & lubricate, check the transmission brake isn't binding, wheel bearings etc.


Well I tried the free wheel and the noise is still there.
The noise is only noticeable above 15 M.P.H. and it dose not matter what gear it is in.

Its got me beat so its off to an Independent next week to see if they can locate the source. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #537234 3rd Jun 2016 3:17pm
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ARC99



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
Well just an update............Been to have the 110 looked at, not repair yet. It appears that the noise is coming from the rear diff and the conclusion is that it is the pinion bearing (the bearing on the input side). Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #543133 24th Jun 2016 9:11pm
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