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Cake



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How to engage low range
Yes it's silly but I tried to put it in low range while a little stuck yesterday and I couldn't push up from neutral - I didn't want to force it any further so reverted back and struggled on.
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dantastic



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With transfer box in neutral, release the clutch and press it again. This will release any wind up and you will be able to select freely.
Post #488389 4th Jan 2016 10:16am
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Cheshire110



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Yep Thumbs Up

Stationary. Depress clutch, into neutral, release clutch, depress clutch, into low, release. Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #488393 4th Jan 2016 10:34am
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
You don't have to be stationary to engage low or high range (but you do have to know what you're doing).

If you struggle to engage low-high & vice-versa, then do it while in gear and slowly release the clutch, that usually sorts it out Thumbs Up --
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Post #488395 4th Jan 2016 10:52am
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Cake



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Thank you all - I will give it a try Smile

I did depress and release the clutch several times but not in the order given.

I think the stress of being bogged down in a field didn't help while attempting to do this for the first time Smile
Post #488396 4th Jan 2016 10:56am
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
top tip: engage CDL & low range before tackling an obstacle, even if at first sight it looks innocuous Wink --
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Post #488398 4th Jan 2016 10:58am
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RoddyK05



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I'm sure I read somewhere in one of Tom Sheppard's books that you didn't use you CDL until you absolutely needed to, that way you had it in 'reserve' to at least get you back out of the situation you were in, rather than using it to get completely stuck in the first place if you see what I mean? I stand ready to be shot down in flames, but im pretty sure that was the great mans advice.
Every situation is different, even similar cars using the same route will behave differently. At the end of the day, it's all down to experience, reading the road, feeling what your car is doing round about you and not being scared to avoid an obstacle rather than go down the 'death or glory' route.
Best advice I can give you Cake is to spend some time with like minded individuals tackling some non damaging tracks etc, or join a club and get into Road Taxed Vehicle trials - superb fun and should be non damaging but you will learn how your car works etc.
Post #488405 4th Jan 2016 11:21am
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Cheshire110



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You should ALWAYS have your CDL locked if there's a chance you could spin (a) wheel(s) as the two prop shafts rotating at vastly different speeds and then one finding grip suddenly can do big damage to the transfer box.

I've seen a transfer box welded together basically by such a situation.

Always lock CDL if you suspect you may lose traction. This is also taught by Land Rover instructors at experience centres. They almost never remove the diff lock except when on a smooth track. Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #488408 4th Jan 2016 11:24am
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RoddyK05



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And here I go, crashed and burned ✈️🔥 Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
I'll need to dig out his book and re-read that chapter I guess Thumbs Up
Post #488412 4th Jan 2016 11:30am
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Cheshire110



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Wow, roddyK05 sorry - I hadn't seen your post! Was typing when you posted.

Sorry!

Different angles on the same problem i guess.

Id agree with you on a vehicle with rear lockers etc, that would make sense. And maybe on vehicles more "robustly" manufactured a spinning Transfer box wouldn't be a problem haha Rolling with laughter Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #488414 4th Jan 2016 11:32am
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
RoddyK05 wrote:
I'm sure I read somewhere in one of Tom Sheppard's books that you didn't use you CDL until you absolutely needed to, that way you had it in 'reserve' to at least get you back out of the situation you were in, rather than using it to get completely stuck in the first place if you see what I mean?



Absolute Censored , that man shouldn't be allowed to drive a landy Rolling Eyes

always engage CDL (and most of the time, low range as well) before hitting the trail. --
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Post #488416 4th Jan 2016 11:34am
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custom90



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Most surfaces for most users use even green lanes will be hard packed ground though, it'll only induce wind up and there is no risk of loss of traction.it's good to use to keep everything going though.

Agree on CDL being used before needed but you need to weigh up where and when is the right situation.
For example on soft ground, I.e, farmland no firm base in a straight line CDL would be a good thing to keep traction even.
Tight manoeuvres us another story and will likely dig tyre's in and make you more likely to get stuck..

Low range again, is great but very careful use of the speed pedal is needed as the large torque increase will mean a touch on the accelerator and you'll spin yourself into a hole.

Different surfaces and conditions cause for different style of use.
Post #488418 4th Jan 2016 11:46am
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RoddyK05



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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 SW Yellow
As I said above, every situation is different. I wouldn't automatically go for CDL and diff lock at the start of a trail, but there again lots of the stuff available to us here can also be driven by enthusiastic forestry workers in Peugeot vans Surprised
What Naks considers to be a trail could be the situation that I choose to avoid, or vice versa, it's all down to the driver and their own personal experience when choosing what gear etc to select, or how to tackle a route. There are no big rights or wrongs, it's just down to the person behind the wheel to make the call at the time.
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Best advice for CDL (and in fact, I believe, LR advice) is to engage it at the same time as you'd press the yellow knob on a series Land Rover. Disengage it at the same time as you'd disengage 4WD on a series.
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RoddyK05



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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 SW Yellow
Blackwolf, there will be a lot of people on here that have no idea what you're talking about, lots too young to have enjoyed the series experience. I miss mine a lot, but have heard it might be up for sale in the near future, so pushing the yellow knob and pulling red one might be a thing I'm doing in the future - I hope.
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