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mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142

What have I done wrong - stub axle Currently in the middle of a defender rebuild. I put one of the front stub axles on today, and the hub and wheel etc. Whats really odd is that the wheel wont rotate all the way to lock stops in either direction? I think I know what the problem is, but ive no idea why? if anybody could shed any light or ideas im all ears When I tried the bolts which attach the stub axle to the swivel housing, they appear as though they are too long, and when the swivel housing rotates around the swivel ball the bolts actually make contact with the ball restricing the steering lock. Now the bolts are M10 x 25mm 10.9 BZP bolts as per original equipment. Id guess that if the bolts were 5mm shorter they wouldnt protrude inside the swivel housing. I dont have a washer as non is listed on the parts catalogue, and it would have to be a huge one to make a difference! Some pics showing how much steering lock I have. Shows that the wheel gets nowhere near the lock stop or the radius arm Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge

29th Aug 2015 7:43pm

GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10367

A v8, just like the one I'm currently doing... Have you not got your original stub axle bolts? It seems that may be the problem?? Though there's nothing obvious I can see....and I replaced swivels on my 110 2 weeks ago (and fitted the steering stop tab on the front of the swivel today...I fitted them on the back on one side before !!!). There is the dust 'shim' that goes on the swivel housing, people tend to forget them..

29th Aug 2015 8:06pm

GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10367	I'm assuming it's a Richards Chassis, I see a bracket on the left, inside leg that I had to cut off, as I wouldn't have been able to fit my exhaust on.... It wasn't on my old one??
29th Aug 2015 8:11pm

mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142	yup v8. ordered a refurb lt230 with ATB and a R380L this week. dropped the auto plan I didnt put the stub axle mud shield on, nor put the lock tab onto the swivel. I cant see either making the difference. I didnt have any original bolts, as the whole thing so far has been purchased new. My current vehicle is still on the road so havent pinched anything of it yet.
29th Aug 2015 8:13pm

mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142	its actually a marslands V8 NAS chassis. which bracket?
29th Aug 2015 8:13pm

GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10367	All new? That is costing a penny or two then ! Nice spec though, mine isn't as fancy. The bracket is the one that you can see on the first photo, just above the hook of your engine crane... I'm not sure what it's for
29th Aug 2015 8:23pm

mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142	Pushing the boat out I'm told that's the exhaust hanger. The easy fix to my problem is to get some shorter bolts.... Just worried that's not the answer lol!
29th Aug 2015 8:29pm

rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2201	Sure you have the correct cv joints and half shafts in there? Try loosening then about 3 turns to see if that helps the issue Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread 84' 90 3.9 V8 Caged Pickup Build Thread - Now For Sale
29th Aug 2015 8:43pm

mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142	I'm pretty sure undoing the bolts, especially those at left and right hand side of the stub axle will fix it. I see the same issue on the pass side where the bolts are in but without the stub..... Thinking on, it could be the pass side is causing the problem! I have the tie rod attached. One to chk to tomorrow!
29th Aug 2015 8:47pm

ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831	Two things. 1 are you sure that the axel stand is not preventing further movement. 2 have you checked what movement you get with the steering linkage disconnected. Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to us off. Richard
29th Aug 2015 10:31pm

mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142	I'll be trying both tomorrow. Don't think the axle stands are a problem but looking at the picture they are in the way. Wouldn't account for why it won't hit the radius arm but that could be #2.
29th Aug 2015 10:35pm

Rich broom Member Since: 26 Jul 2015 Location: Tiverton Posts: 78	Is your cvjoint pulled through the hub enough and circlip on?
30th Aug 2015 9:08am

mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142

ARC99 wrote: Two things. 1 are you sure that the axel stand is not preventing further movement. 2 have you checked what movement you get with the steering linkage disconnected. And the winner is #2 The pass side swivel was restricting movement because the tie bar has not yet been setup. Removing the bar gave me full steering lock to lock. Thanks! I'll drop a piccy on later. It's very shiny! I haven't yet pulled the CV joints through fully. No circlip either yet or shims. Do you still need them with heavy duty drive members?

30th Aug 2015 12:17pm

GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10367	Glad it's sorted, looking forward to the pic. You would need circlips, I'm sure.
30th Aug 2015 1:16pm

ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831	Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to us off. Richard
30th Aug 2015 2:31pm

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