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bpman



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Fitted 07 Defender Middle Row Seats to my 03 110 XS
I have just finished fitting a middle row set of 07 Defender puma XS seats to my 03 TD5 110 XS, thought some of you might be interested in my findings...

I looked at fitting Discovery II td5 middle row seats, they will fit but I did not like the pattern and the seats needed a little modding, but if you can't find some defender seats disco IIs will fit, you need to mod the 40% seat slightly.

Anyway, I managed to buy some 07 defender full height seats with headrests and 3x3point belts, in black, brand new from a Land Rover garage in mid-Wales for under Ł500 almost complete.

My main concern is safety, I'd rather over engineer the fitting rather than have the seats fall out on an accident.. so if you like the new puma seats, here's a quick run down of what is required to fit them.

Modifications required:
1. Front of floor seat box: The new seat front/floor fittings don't line up exactly as the old middle row bench, so the seat box needed some additional holes and plates.

2. The new seats sit into the wheel arch, so I had to cut a hole in the inner wheel arch. Well away from the seat belt mounting, a hole 85mm X 200mm (pictures on request), this was backed with some carefully cut aluminuim channel section to match the contours of the wheel arch (100mm wide x 30mm deep) inside the wheel arch to keep the dirt out and grip filled + waxoyled.

Now the seats fit into the car, there appears much more leg room even with the front seats far back, but now the most tricky bit..

3. There is a new plate inside the load area on the floor for the seats to lock down onto, this is a heafty piece of metal that bolts through the floor with 6 bolts onto 2 plates that attach to the middle x-member. Bit of fiddling to get that to fit but it does.

4. re-waxoyl the affected areas

5. job done!

Seat belts all the same, same functionality as 07 seats, 60% and 40%, both fold forward for extra space. I removed 2 of the dickie seats but it's actually not necessary.

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Post #2157 21st May 2008 10:28pm
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Post us some pictures.


Also welcome to the forum .

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bpman



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the seats.. 3 point belts - nice

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a hole in the wheel arch 80mm x 200mm, with alumininum channel bolted to the underside

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seems there is more legroom, this is a 2003 110 XS, I believe the floor/tub may have been changed since earlier models. Still enough room to store the jack, warjning triangle and other junk..

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underneath the arches... you can see the channel fitted and waxoyled.

Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Mr. Green
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bpman



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I have since tidied up the hole on the inside of the wheel arch and carpeted the area..

seats are working well in service.
Post #5066 27th Nov 2008 10:16am
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Good post...I take it that's all the pictures you have...It's just that I'm trying to source same for my French buddy here for his 1998 CSW.
You'd mentioned Disco 2 seats too?.....Do they have 3 headrests in them?

Thanks again for the post
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the DiscoII middle rows do have headrests, including a middle one that pops up and down depending on the position of the middle arm rest.

if you go the disco II route, you will need to make changes to the foam filler as stated, but with a bit of neat stitching, you should be able to make a good job. the other challenge is the floor anchor.

post up some pics if you do it ... cheers
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Thanks again for the info...Ill see what I can source...

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just came across one of my first posts from 2008 Very Happy
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Are there any more pictures of this or the Disco seat conversions available? I'm after doing something similar to mine.
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bpman



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I did not do the disco 2 seat conversion as you can see from the photos, but I bought a set before I got the defender2 seats. if you get a set of disco 2 seats, you just need to be brave with the 40% seat, it will come apart and from memory there's not much work needed to reduce the width.
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I want some Puma seats as baby seats are rubbish in my 110 CSW, where are people sourcing them from?
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Splendid Post, I have always considerred the middle row of seats as a place to be avoided at all costs since my 109 Safari years ago, though I replaced all the seats in that with much more comfortable ones, I'm sure an MOT tester would have had a heart attack if he saw how the new rear bench had been installed.

The Puma seats are much more comfortable and have the all important head restraints and 3 point harnesses.

How well do the taller seats fold up? He who dies with the most toys wins Smile

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