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Paddie42



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Shellshock - computer vulnerability
There is a serious computer vulnerability that has been found which has the potential to be worse than HeartBleed. Companies seem to be working on a fix, but please be careful..

More information can be found searching for "ShellShock".

or

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/25/sh...ype_fears/

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gilarion



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Seems to only affect Mac’s and those running Linux.
Advice is do not use Credit or Debit cards for online purchase. Personally the best advice is never to have large amounts of money in your credit accounts.
It appears that with each passing day the web is becoming more vulnerable to hacks and attacks.
It used to be easy, all you did was ignore an email from a South African unknown relative offering you millions for just sharing your bank account details with them now even Ebay is full of phishing scams.
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These types of attacks will be an ongoing issue…

I was once told there are two types of people,
those who have had a data loss
and those who are going to have a data loss.
Back up your data and then back up your back up’s.

Run quality internet security.

Use secure purchase options on-line.

Change your pass-words to high ranking ones.

Try to avoid…

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Post #360309 26th Sep 2014 3:28pm
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leeds



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Just run the test to see if my mac is vulnerable and sure enough it is - come on apple pull your finger out and let's have a patch please.
This is how I checked
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You can test your Mac yourself using a simple command in the Terminal application.

Testing for the Bash vulnerability

Double-click on the Utilities folder.
Double-click on Terminal.
Type (or copy and paste) the following command: env X="() { :;} ; echo vulnerable" /bin/sh -c "echo stuff"
If your Mac says "vulnerable," then the version of Bash installed on it is indeed vulnerable to the problem.

In the meantime I am having kittens, I suppose it is payback time for all the times I have felt smug about pc attacks and viruses.
Big Cry
Barbara
Post #360313 26th Sep 2014 4:30pm
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You put your Mac on the internet ? Do you run a web server on your Mac ?

Unless they have access to run Bash scripts already via a login then it's not an issue for machines that are not accessible from the outside world. Potentially the weakness could be exploited via a trojan application though so be careful what you install on the Mac or just use the security settings to block unsigned apps. Go to System Preferences -> Sharing and make sure "Remote Login" is turned off.

The main vulnerability is for web servers, particularly those that allow direct cgi execution although no doubt there will be further ways to exploit it. Potentially a php script could be used to trigger it but if they've already managed to run arbitrary php scripts then you already have issues. http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/
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^ Thnx for the explanation Dave. Thumbs Up Cheers, Vincent
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Post #360316 26th Sep 2014 5:05pm
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leeds



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Thanks Dave - always the voice of reason Very Happy
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Post #360319 26th Sep 2014 5:17pm
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ZeDefender



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Okay - I'm vulnerable. Now what?
Doesn't seem to be much advice except "don't use credit cards etc." I don't have much option as I'm stuck in Germany Sad
p.s. still using the app Bow down Thumbs Up Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Let's not forget that Linux machines are ridiculously less vulnerable than Windows machines anyway. I know which OS I prefer to run and do any sort of banking transactions on and that hasn't changed in the last few days or so.....
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It's not that hard to avoid these attacks, they require you to either click on a link to download the virus or open a file sent to you in an email. So don't visit dodgy websites, click on links emailed to you by unknown people or open files sent to you (they usually appear as a zip file in an email saying 'your invoice is attached').
Post #360394 26th Sep 2014 9:53pm
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