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zone30



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Belgium 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Nara Bronze
End of month = end if warrenty. What to check?
110 Puma 2.4 TD4 TDCi - 66000kms (approx 42000miles).
As stated, soon out of warrenty.

But before that happens, what do I check and get looked at bedore that happens.

I'm going to thoroughly check my bulkhead and question the state of my EGR as this makes a lot of iep-iep noises when turning the car off (which may be normal for all I know).

But any stuff you can point me at is more than welcome!
Post #328915 7th May 2014 10:18am
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zone30



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Belgium 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Nara Bronze
After a extensive search I'm a little bit the wiser.

Will look at:
    - Bulkhead and bodywork corrosion and paint chippings
    - Rubbers on doors, windows...
    - Engine compartment (leaks)
    - Underbody leaks
    - Headlamp surrounds
    - If the EGR makes the correct noise
    - Paint flakings on the rear cross member

Any other suggestions?
Post #328937 7th May 2014 11:29am
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schuee



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
My 110 warranty finishes early September, and my dealer without prompting them advised me to book it in about a month before it's first MOT which is when the warranty ends, and they will give it a pre MOT check and iron out any potential problems and resolve under warranty.

Other things to check,

Clutch rattle whilst idling, or in 1st gear low box.
Transission handbrake binding when hot.
Front bumper corrosion.
Mud flap brackets corrosion.
Side runners if fitted paint flaking.

All above should be covered under warranty, also EGR should make a nice chukka chukka sound when turning engine off, not a screeching sound.

Best Of Luck Thumbs Up

Cheers
Post #328945 7th May 2014 11:59am
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zone30



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Belgium 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Nara Bronze
Clutch rattle whilst idling, or in 1st gear low box. => don't think so.
Transission handbrake binding when hot. => don't think so.
Front bumper corrosion. => not original so not applicable.
Mud flap brackets corrosion. => yes, thx, will ask.
Side runners if fitted paint flaking. => they are to banged up to have them fix it under warranty I'm afraid Laughing .
EGR should make a nice chukka chukka sound when turning engine off, not a screeching sound. => think it's allright, but it seems louder then when I just had it (maybe telling myself things here, but it's worth to ask).
Post #328962 7th May 2014 1:06pm
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bpman



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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
side window latches
windscreen hinges
puddles
Post #328966 7th May 2014 1:22pm
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zone30



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Belgium 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Nara Bronze
side window latches => ok
windscreen hinges => some minor bubbles, will mention it
puddles => ok
Post #328973 7th May 2014 1:37pm
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic13650.html?highlight=early

K9F wrote:
As mine was reaching the three-year point I took Fekete's advice and banged it in a month early for an MOT so any problems could be sorted under warranty if possible. No problems it sailed through.

Went over the bodywork with a fine toothcomb and as I type this the vehicle went in for a 'weeks worth' of paintwork issues that surprisingly were accepted without quibble to be done under warranty.

The 90 has two vertical welds below the windows on the side (the 110 doesn't posess these welds) one of which wasn't formed correctly and subsequently the paint cracked and there was evidence of rust bubbling. Reformation of the weld!

On the nearside corner of the windscreen between the rubber seal and the 'non functional' hinge blocks there was also evidence of paint lifting and a small track of bubbling. Windscreen out job!!!

On the rear there are two small shaped panels that are riveted to the bodywork either side of the vehicle above numberplate height. There was very minor corrosion evidence due to the original paintwork not adhering to the sharp edges. Smooth off the sharp edges slightly and respray.

With everything else that has caused me grief with regards to poor paint finish having been either swapped out for superior products or reworked to prevent reoccurence such as hinge blocks, headlight retaining rings, front bumper, sidesteps, window latches I am hoping now to have a period without rust cultivation, paint flaking and the depressive feeling when it is discovered for some time to come.

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 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #329024 7th May 2014 3:40pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
zone30 wrote:
EGR should make a nice chukka chukka sound when turning engine off, not a screeching sound. => think it's allright, but it seems louder then when I just had it (maybe telling myself things here, but it's worth to ask).


Has a lot to do withthe fuel quality you buy.

On a related note, will you not consider to buy Land Rover extended warranty for up to another 3 years?
I know that a lot of UK members are blasting this as useless, but can assure you here in Switzerland it is a first class warranty, offered by Land Rover themselves, not by some 3rd party insurance comp, and the annual premium includes the annual maintenance too for the time you take this warranty.
I did not have to use the extended warranty all too often in year 4 and 5 except for a leaking rear diff seal which under my Swiss extended warranty actually was repaired by Land Rover Antwerpen as it all happened on a trip over there...
But now in year 6 I had some suspected play in my rear halfshafts, which believe was already there from new, and without any discussion, Land Rover swallowed the entire bill for my dealer fitting two brand new half shafts. I have seen the dealer invoice to Land Rover for that, and was happy that I did not have to pay myself. More expensive than the combined bill for the 3 years extended warranty premium I paid.
Maybe worth considering.... Land Rover Belgium might be good in this respect too..... If you do it, make sure you buy the first year extended warranty latest on the day before the 3 year warranty expires.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #329037 7th May 2014 3:56pm
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Extended warranty in the UK? It was £70 per month ballpark..... Shocked

K9F wrote:
The general opinion of the worth of extended warranty was a resounding NO!

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic7586.html?highlight=extended

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic10345.html?highlight=extended

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic4798.html?highlight=extended

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic3163.html?highlight=extended

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic4171.html?highlight=extended
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #329041 7th May 2014 4:12pm
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ericvv



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^^ That is what I said about UK. Belgium might be different though, more like the Swissies here Thumbs Up

Edit: £70/month? That indeed is a rip off then in UK, as it is more expensive than what you pay in (usually very expensive) Switzerland, and in Switzerland the extended warranty premium includes the annual maintenance by the Land Rover dealer. And when it comes to honouring claims, they do pay as I experienced. Thumbs Up You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
Post #329047 7th May 2014 4:21pm
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
My truck is now three years out of warranty and based on the cost of the extended one I have saved myself potentially £2,500. It is a lot of money should you not have the misfortune to cash in on it and could buy you quite a lot if you do have issues.
I suppose it depends on usage, if I covered extensive miles it may have been worth the peace of mind perhaps? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #329050 7th May 2014 4:27pm
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zone30



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Belgium 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Nara Bronze
In Belgium it was +1200 euro/year for a Freelander 2 when I asked about it last year. No maintenance, no drivetrain issues are included. So I think it's more like the UK version. Switzeland is not part of the EU (wright?) so they probably can enforce different rules. On the other hand, I pay less than 150 euro yearly roadtax which I presume in Switzeland is a different matter.
So I don't think I 'll do that as I suspect it'll be even more expensive for a Defender. I'll put the 1500 in a savingsaccount instead.
Post #329083 7th May 2014 6:12pm
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chris bb



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schuee wrote:
My 110 warranty finishes early September, and my dealer without prompting them advised me to book it in about a month before it's first MOT which is when the warranty ends, and they will give it a pre MOT check and iron out any potential problems and resolve under warranty.


I was given the same advice by a Land Rover dealer when last I could afford to buy one still in warranty.

The next car I bought from a main dealer (from new) told me that I was suggesting some sort of fraud when I requested the same service.

Hey-ho, I'm back in the LR camp.

Next question, I bought a 4 year old Defender which (allegedly) came with a LR 1 year warranty. It's up for service now, if I take it to a different LR main dealer will the warranty apply for any faults they find? Series 2A 88, 1976 - 1980
Series 3 Lightweight, 1999 - 2011
200 TDi 90, 2012 - 2014
Puma 90, 2015
Wolf 90, 2017 -
Post #329163 7th May 2014 11:06pm
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martinfiattech



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Fuel filler neck breather pipe mines just going, 2 months of warranty left.....
Going in for a week on Saturday Big Cry Excuse the spelling I`am better with spanners and wires.
Post #329445 8th May 2014 9:28pm
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zone30



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Belgium 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Nara Bronze
My final checklist (not all stuff mentioned is applicable to me, so it's a personalized list):

Bodywork checkup:
Bulkhead
Check seams, focus on roof
Windscreen surround an hinges
Puddles
Rear crossmember
Headlight fittings
Rubbers doors and windows
Mudflaps corrosion
Chassis rust
Bushes

Mechanics:
EGR noise
Motor compartment: leaks, wet spots an wiring
Underside: leaks, wet spots and wiring (transfer case / transmission / diffs)
Wiring high pressure sensor
Fuel filter neck breather pipe

Other:
State of dasboard dails screen

This is based on what people tell me they had issue with and I have it fitted on my car and isn't banged up by me.

PS Since today I have the dreaded death wobble, so monday is just in time to get that sorted as well.
Recently installed HD track an steering rods and had a panhard bush sorted so I suspect it's something else. I could not find play on the wheels so I fear it may be the steering itself. Just in time I guess.

After the first round I'm gonna let an independant go over it as well once it is returned.
Post #330089 10th May 2014 10:19pm
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