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tookaphotoof



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Netherlands 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
roof possibly leaking because of cracks
Is this a common problem with Defenders? I'm having a hard time getting the car leak free and as of today a local shop I visit regularly discovered both sides of the roof has cracks. I'm actually a bit shocked this happens on a car less than a year old.

Maybe Mike@Landrover has an idea what happened? Already send some photos to my dealer but willing to send you full size photos for investigation if you wish. In the meantime I keep on smiling trying to avoid turning into a grumpy old man. Mr. Green


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blackwolf



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I think it is entirely normal, the roof flexes but the paint doesn't. It doesn't necessarily mean it will leak since the sealant between the panels also flexes, but it can cause leaks.
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tookaphotoof



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Thanks for the reply.
The strange thing is the panel doesn't seem to be cut in a straight line either. There is a cut out if you look at the lower part of the panel. I've been looking at a couple of 5-10 year old Defenders which all looked fine.
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Hello tookaphotoof

I am sorry and shocked to see the photos. This isn't something I have seen before to be honest.

If you can PM me the following details I can pass this onto my colleagues in the Netherlands who can assist further:
Full Name
Email
Telephone Number
VIN
Dealership

Many Thanks

Mike
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tookaphotoof



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I'll pm you today. Thanks in advance.
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blackwolf



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Mike, I am surprised that you are surprised (!) since this seems to be a common feature on Defender rooves, although admittedly this is more extreme than some.

If I get the chance I'll take a photo of my '07 DC which is rather similar.
Post #304972 4th Feb 2014 11:01am
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Norm4n



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Friggin leaks - take it back, and keep doing so till all leaks are fixed

The widely accepted (by some) statement "they all do that" doesn't wash

They cannot sell a product that isn't fit for purpose
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ericvv



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Re: roof possibly leaking because of cracks
[quote="tookaphotoof"]Is this a common problem with Defenders? I'm having a hard time getting the car leak free and as of today a local shop I visit regularly discovered both sides of the roof has cracks. I'm actually a bit shocked this happens on a car less than a year old.
Maybe Mike@Landrover has an idea what happened? Mr. Green

Those are shocking pictures of course, and frankly never have seen something like that. One question, in the Netherlands most (if not all) new Defenders get their roof amended for tax reasons. Heightening the roof by what is it, 3 or 4 cm?, means that dealers are really doing some serious amendments on the roof. Could that cracked seam possibly be a result of dealer manipulation, a bit more careless than they should have done possibly?
Eric
Edited with a link explaining the Dutch reasons for heightening Defender roofs....
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic22586....r+roof+tax You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
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tookaphotoof



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Eric, that's something you'll only find with the 90 and 110.
My Defender has been registered as a 'truck' with removable top. The crew cab is not part of the load space, so I don't need the roof to be raised. Smile
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