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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2166  
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Click image to enlarge Spotted this today in the same car park in Glasgow . After taking the pics I planted my nose against the drivers window to take a peek inside  within seconds a Huge fearsome salivating head of a German shepherd appeared from behind the tinted glass  a real brown trouser moment , yes I  myself and all I could hear we're passers by laughing out loud. As I jumped 2 feet backwards . No need for a tracker then . There was a camping and travel book around Scotland on the dash . Before I left the driver and his Missus arrived and We had a chat about our travels . He's off to Mull and onto Skye . He tells me that from next year NO defender will be sold in Germany , due to a change in the law about front end impact and pedestrian safety . So although as we all mention that the defender probably has a few more years of production left , it's all over in Germany . Is this correct ? |
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18th Sep 2013 10:20pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3140  
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Is Germany banning commercial vehicles then? Their economy will be well screwed if so...
I can't work out how this - Click image to enlarge Is somehow safer than this - 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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19th Sep 2013 7:57am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240 
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Different rules for different classes of vehicles, which obviously reflects their use. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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19th Sep 2013 10:13am |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3140
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They are both commercials?
Seems kind of daft to make cars crumble around a pedestrian only for a lorry to come along and squash him flat... 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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19th Sep 2013 10:19am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240
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I've no idea what they're classed as in Germany but even if they are, you're not seriously suggesting that the same rules should apply to a Land Rover as to a 40-odd tonne articulated truck? 56mph speed limits and tacho's for all journeys, perhaps? In reality, of course, not every Defender is a commercial, regardless of what it might be taxed as.
What would be more of a nonsense would be to apply 'car' rules to SW type Defenders and 'commercial' rules to hard tops. I know it's been like that in the past in this country but the argument that they're both the same shape if they hit you seems to have put paid to it now. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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19th Sep 2013 11:30am |
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| wyvern Member Since: 14 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2075 
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yep - that brings us nicely round to the other running topic ....
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic23080.html Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126 |
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19th Sep 2013 12:00pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240
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Strange timescales though as other discussions and news articles have suggested the end of 2015 as the cut -off rather than next year as mentioned in the OP. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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19th Sep 2013 12:21pm |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2166
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. Then I wouldn't be called a landrover . It's then a Ford , vw , Toyota , Mercedes , Audi etc . |
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19th Sep 2013 12:29pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3140
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The Defender is a commercial in the same sense as a Transit van is a commercial. The point being that the rules are on the one hand making it harder and harder to produce cars and light commercials, whilst at the time time allowing slab-fronted HGVs to carry on just as they always have done. What is the point making a small vehicle safer (not that there is anything wrong with that) whilst still allowing mobile walls of death to be around. Seems to be somewhat disjointed thinking...
It is clear that FEWER rules apply to HGVs than to Defenders, at least so far as pedestrian safety is concerned. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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19th Sep 2013 12:44pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
It would be practically impossible to have apply "pedestrian friendly" rules to HGV's. As HGV's are more necessary than Landrovers you can expect HGV to stay the same and Defenders to change,if you wanna go on a crusade,I'd pick another cause
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19th Sep 2013 7:29pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3140
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That in spite of very reasonable arguments for why 4x4s should be exempt from "pedestrian safety" legislation? EG fitment of winches and other accessories. The dreamers in the EU would gladly have all freight travel by train, I highly doubt they have any desire to preserve HGVs. No doubt in the future they will probably start making demands regarding their design. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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20th Sep 2013 8:47am |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3467  
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[quote="keith"]
Click image to enlarge What grille is that? Looks non standard 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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20th Sep 2013 11:08am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I take it you don't do Risk Assessments at work? 
Is that really such a bad thing?
Side impact bars? |
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20th Sep 2013 12:07pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
Looks like a black version of http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370397318260 |
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20th Sep 2013 12:14pm |
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