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HansT

Member Since: 25 Dec 2012
Location: Mariefred
Posts: 173

Water leak...

I have had this Defender for a month. Its a 110 TD5 2004 LHD.

Water (about 5cl?) comes out at the top of driver door near A-frame. From between the inner roof and the plastic seal (not rubber door seal). It also comes out on the outside above the rubber door seal. It only comes out when I reverse or corner sharply. The leak only occurs when it has been parked over night. Never while driving in rain.

I have studied the water ingress manual but fail to understand where the water enters or where it collects. Any ideas?

/Hans

22nd May 2013 10:55pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19621

Possible internal condensation on the interior of the roof? I have experienced some moisture with mine in the winter in similar areas but I put it down to that above as it's not like it all the time. If it was every time it rained it would be like it and it's not the case. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧

22nd May 2013 11:03pm

discoed

Member Since: 18 Nov 2011
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 19

Defenders will leak - it's in their nature. You will be far happier if you just accept it and mop it up. With the construction and design used water leaks are inevitable.

In my old work 110 I had to keep a folder handy to deflect the water from the sunroof from landing on my head when leaving the yard - that was why I had waterproof seat covers!

22nd May 2013 11:10pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19621

discoed wrote:
that was why I had waterproof seat covers!

Would it not have been better to have waterproof head protection?

Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧

22nd May 2013 11:12pm

VeeTee

Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1512

Probably leaking from the sunroof or alpine windows. It collects in the inner roof gutter and flows out wetting your knee when braking or sharp cornering. Guess how I know?

Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold)
1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold)
1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold)
1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold)
2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold)
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22nd May 2013 11:14pm

discoed

Member Since: 18 Nov 2011
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 19

It only happened once a trip - no justification for a waterproof hat

22nd May 2013 11:14pm

HansT

Member Since: 25 Dec 2012
Location: Mariefred
Posts: 173

No sun roof fitted and I have checked the inside gutter through the alpine window and it seems to be bone dry. Only dust... Can water follow the inner roof from alpine window all the way to front door?

So far I have ruled out condensation because of the amount of water.

/Hans

22nd May 2013 11:23pm

discoed

Member Since: 18 Nov 2011
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 19

HansT wrote:
an water follow the inner roof from alpine window all the way to front door?

Yes

22nd May 2013 11:24pm

HansT

Member Since: 25 Dec 2012
Location: Mariefred
Posts: 173

I will tape up the alpine window seal before next rain to test if this is the problem. Thanks.

/Hans

22nd May 2013 11:34pm

VeeTee

Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1512

This might come in handy: Water Ingress Manual, see Process No. 2.5

Good luck

22nd May 2013 11:45pm

HansT

Member Since: 25 Dec 2012
Location: Mariefred
Posts: 173

Yes VeeTee, this is about where the water comes out. But I want to know where it goes in as it happens when the vehicle is stationary.

/Hans

23rd May 2013 12:08am

JWL

Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3443

Might be worth a look at whether you have a leak from the feed pipe to the rear wash wipe, yours is a left hand drive and the washer pipe runs (IIRC) in the channel where the roof meets the sides on the near side.

23rd May 2013 12:30am

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

also check,

> top of windscreen, where it meets the roof
> top of A pillars - should have sealant

23rd May 2013 7:01am

excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5745

1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue

On mine, I found a gap where the roof drivers corner meets the A pillar. Resealed this and also resealed & replaced the Alpine window seal and applied plenty of sealant.
This caused the leak from standing. However, driving during heavy rain or parking at the wrong angle I still get water in. Looking at the roof there appears to be a bit of play (as in I can move the roof up and down a couple of mm, and I suspect as I am driving into heavy rain, the wind is pushing the roof up a little, opening the gap and allowing water in. 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

23rd May 2013 8:20am

ARC99

Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1831

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue

VeeTee wrote:
This might come in handy: Water Ingress Manual, see Process No. 2.5

Good luck

Mine has a leak which drips on my right knee.

Thanks for the link I now know where to check and fix.

23rd May 2013 5:58pm

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