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Supacat



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H4mmy90 - I'm in a MY13 and don't have any excessive slack in the driveline (although there is some there for sure) and definitely no "massive flatspots", so I'd rule out an issue with yours before you go throwing money at it.

Have you driven Defenders before or is this your first? What vehicle did you come from? Not wanting to be condescending but if coming from a eurobox, especially one with an auto then a manual Defender does take some modifications to your driving technique and style.

Can you go back to the dealer and get an extended test drive in their demo vehicle? Failing that, I'd give it back to them and say there is an issue and see what they say.
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bell-auto-services



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Re: 2.2 defender
H4mmy90 wrote:
Evening all! Just wondering if there are any members with a 2.2 around Taunton, somerset area???? Iv recently taken delivery of a new defender but I'm really struggling to get used to it!! Iv just got back from a 1000 mile trip up north and was hoping I'd get used to it, from some one none mechanical it is as though there is so much slack in the drive line and a few massive flat spots through the rev range! I'd just like to go out in another one just to ease my mind!! Any one able to help??????



Shame your not nearer to me in York, I could have looked at it for you and you could have driven mine with no flat spots at all before and after remap Smile


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Regards Pete
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Drive it like a truck and you won't go far wrong, drive it like a Eurobox and you'll have the transmission clunking like a good'un in no time. Steve.
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H4mmy90



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Well it was my defenders first day at work today!! It's like a different vehicle towing my digger around the countryside no clunks knocking or anything so am now happy it's me obviously change my driving style for towing!!!!

No never had a defender before always had the jap crap l200 hilux ranger and they just wernt for me!! Defender has got it's own personality, even the misses has given it a name!!!

Ian: yeah looking forward to your reply always after more power!!!
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H4mmy90

I am in Ilton, 9 miles from Taunton and have a month old 90.

No slack in the drive train or flatspots, well compared to my now sold 2009 110.

If I can help drop me a PM Thumbs Up

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H4mmy90



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Bob thanks for the post!! Please let me know of any or meets as il like to start meeting a few Enthusiasts!! to be fair it's me, I don't think it is slack i just make it clunk!! I seem to get a flat spot just under and just over 2k when cruising but i didn't notice it when towing!! I think a remap will enhance the drivability
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big steve



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Re: 2.2 defender
bell-auto-services wrote:
H4mmy90 wrote:
Evening all! Just wondering if there are any members with a 2.2 around Taunton, somerset area???? Iv recently taken delivery of a new defender but I'm really struggling to get used to it!! Iv just got back from a 1000 mile trip up north and was hoping I'd get used to it, from some one none mechanical it is as though there is so much slack in the drive line and a few massive flat spots through the rev range! I'd just like to go out in another one just to ease my mind!! Any one able to help??????



Shame your not nearer to me in York, I could have looked at it for you and you could have driven mine with no flat spots at all before and after remap Smile


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Regards Pete


Why don't you talk to pete 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
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hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
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Post #233551 7th May 2013 7:39pm
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H4mmy90



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Il talk to Pete it's just a long way to go 4 a visit!!
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big steve



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Yer I appretiate that Thumbs Up 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
Post #233566 7th May 2013 7:58pm
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H4mmy90



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Just wish lr would void the warranty on after market items fitted eg performance exhaust inter cooler and not void it on the whole vehicle!! O well sure 3 years will fly by and the big mods can start!!!
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H4mmy90



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Just seen bell autos are at the landrover show at Shepton malett at the end of June!!!!
Pete will you be doing remaps during the weekend???[/list]
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bell-auto-services



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H4mmy90 wrote:
Just seen bell autos are at the landrover show at Shepton malett at the end of June!!!!
Pete will you be doing remaps during the weekend???[/list]



Yes ill be doing maps their as long as i can get internet connection to my server.
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big steve



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I could be up for that one too Thumbs Up


Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
Post #233641 7th May 2013 9:57pm
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H4mmy90



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Hope to get a few trick bits
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limbrickh



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H4mmy90, I just read your original post on this.

FYI...I have a 2012 2.2 and I know what you mean about the clunk...however mine only does it once it has been running at a high-ish speed for around 30 minutes. When the vehicle is still cold it is a dream to drive...nice and smooth. However after a 30 minute country or motorway run it is impossible to drive smoothly around town. Every gear change results in a clunk no matter how hard I try. I suspect it is the clutch heating up and not disengaging in a linear way once it's warm. The thinner warm gearbox oil probably doesn't help either.

I too have noticed that it is smoother while towing - even when hot.

Interestingly, I have a 1969 109 and it behaves the same way...although it's not so obvious, as everything else in the vehicle is clunking all the time anyway. Laughing

The flat spots don't sound right though...unless you're not used to the electronic throttle. It pays to keep in mind that the throttle pedal is just sending a message to the ECU rather than directly giving the engine more juice. Once I understood that, the behaviour of the engine made more sense to me.

Hamish
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