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tatra805

Member Since: 16 Aug 2011
Location: Dolany
Posts: 436

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey

FYI bleeding fuel system

I ran dry after installing a britpart filter which was sucking air.

(before you start telling me how stupid it was, i had no choice, OEM was out of stock)

Really, how difficult can it be to copy something and make it to the same spec??? that is not even R&D.

Anyway, car died after 10 minutes of running, happily still at the parking place.

2 hours and multiple attempts later we put back the old OEM filter and immediately all was solved.

Well the good news is that taking air out of the system is not all that problematic and can be done without the special LR tool. Just need a rag, a compressor and an empty bottle to catch fuel at the engine side.

Pressurize the tank and let flow the diesel at the fuelrail (unplug the quick-connect at the front and top of the engine, next to the fuelrail, not the ones hidden lower down at the middle of the fuel rail) into the bottle, about 1 liter and no more air came out.

Just FYI in case you need a bush repair. (oh and with a 12VDC compressor it might be necessary to block your tank vent pipe)

22nd Oct 2012 9:13am

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 7703

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

good tip, thank you Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop

22nd Oct 2012 9:31am

Dieselhead

Member Since: 21 Oct 2012
Location: Pulborough. West Sussex
Posts: 552

Ah your not the only one to have had problems with brit part fuel fitlers

Serviced a mates Puma yesterday.

5 mins after he took it he was at the side of the road with a dead engine

I had to tow him to saftey, in the end I had to put the old filter back on & suck diesel up using my oil extractor

All at the side of the road

I wont use brit part again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chris

2008 XS 110 2.4 Utility. Tonga Green
1953 Series 1 for restoration
1983 Mini Mayfair
2004 VW T5 Camper
2008 Diahatsu Sirion. Thats hers
Classic Bolens Garden Tractors

4th Nov 2012 7:27pm

Phoenix90

Member Since: 04 Mar 2012
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 377

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

Great tip, but how do you pressurise the tank?

4th Nov 2012 7:50pm

sense of adventure

Member Since: 11 Nov 2011
Location: warwickshire
Posts: 147

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Galway Green

If the tank is above 3/4 full just jack the rear end up 400mm and it will fill the filter for you

4th Nov 2012 9:29pm

Phil VM2.5

Member Since: 28 Mar 2012
Location: Limelette
Posts: 196

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

sense of adventure wrote:
If the tank is above 3/4 full just jack the rear end up 400mm and it will fill the filter for you

hi,
if it work as you say, interesting !
the other idea to put pressure at the tank is great also but will be afraid with the pressure a tank

anyway, in which state will be all the little plastic connections in some years when we will use the official tool ?

also for the one who make offroad, what about the risk to put dird when using the official kit ?

regards,
Phil current : defender 110 sw 2.2 puma 2012 and 230.000km today and
again my Range Rover VM2.5 engine from 1992 and 528.000km today.

One ten 1988 to 1992
1987 BMW GS80
One Ten from 1984 to 1987
One Ten from 1983 to 1984
Serie 3 109 from 1980 to 1983
from 1974 Jeep CJ3B and CJ6

Last edited by Phil VM2.5 on 12th Aug 2015 1:46pm. Edited 1 time in total

7th Nov 2012 11:17am

tatra805

Member Since: 16 Aug 2011
Location: Dolany
Posts: 436

bit late to answer the question

pressurizing the tank we do by "sealing" the filler opening with the rag wrapped around the air pistol. This allows for enough leaking that the pressure is absolutely not dangerous for the tank/fuel lines.

With a 12Vdc compressor which has only little flow compared to a normal one i think better sealing and even closing the breather pipe will be necessary to have some effect.

7th Nov 2012 1:30pm

Dieselhead

Member Since: 21 Oct 2012
Location: Pulborough. West Sussex
Posts: 552

Phoenix90 wrote:
Great tip, but how do you pressurise the tank?

I did not.

Just pulled the pipe off the fuel rail & sucked the fuel up to there.

Cranked it round a few times & it went.

May have been luck but it worked

Chris

2008 XS 110 2.4 Utility. Tonga Green
1953 Series 1 for restoration
1983 Mini Mayfair
2004 VW T5 Camper
2008 Diahatsu Sirion. Thats hers
Classic Bolens Garden Tractors

7th Nov 2012 9:25pm

Landlord

Member Since: 27 Oct 2009
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 582

On a TD5 turn ignition on but do not start engine, depress and release accelerator 4 or 5 times until MIL flashes, fuel system goes into auto purge until engine is started. 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top

7th Nov 2012 9:30pm

paulgrs2

Member Since: 11 Dec 2011
Location: Pickering, North Yorkshire
Posts: 39

1988 Defender 110 200 Tdi PU Baltic Blue

£14 sealey hand pump with slightly adapted pipe fittings works a treat, done loads with it.

10th Nov 2012 8:30pm

sense of adventure

Member Since: 11 Nov 2011
Location: warwickshire
Posts: 147

Landlord wrote:
On a TD5 turn ignition on but do not start engine, depress and release accelerator 4 or 5 times until MIL flashes, fuel system goes into auto purge until engine is started.

No pump in the tank on a 2.4 but there is on the 2.2 but it needs a different sequence and tooling for it to prime

10th Nov 2012 8:48pm

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