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90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2125 |
Very few are rigid ladder chassis though......
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1st Aug 2021 6:04pm |
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Hufflepuff Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: Hampshire Posts: 727 |
I don't think its a sure thing that EVs are here to stay in the medium term. Other technology is available which is getting research investment at the moment, including hydrogen combustion or other synthetic fuels. Liquid fuel still offer significant benefits over battery technology for 'working' vehicles, ones which can't be off the road for 8+ hours at a time (eg. trucks).
I still struggle to understand how the UK electric infrastructure is going to be able to charge up everyones cars overnight if we all come back and plug a 7kW charger in - we seem very close to the max capacity at the moment. We are going to have to sort out how to heat (and potentially) cool our homes too in the future using electricity, which I expect to require further grid capacity. 2005 Td5 90 XS 1989 V8 110 CSW |
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2nd Aug 2021 10:42am |
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Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 419 |
While I agree that the Grenadier and Rivian are targeted at slightly different buyers (and I'd consider myself more in Grenadier's target market), I think you're wrong about EV or ICE not being a consideration for a buyer. Once you've driven an EV for any length of time, the thought of going back to the inconvenience, noise and awkwardness of an ICE is really a tough sell. Though I will say one of the few exceptions would be for a utility vehicle, as you do get more of a mechanical feel with ICE. Nevertheless, I am still looking forwards to the first real utility EVs. The Cybertruck is one real candidate, albeit quite big. Being an ICE is a significant negative factor with the Grenadier, and if they don't get it out the door soon it will be left behind. |
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2nd Aug 2021 7:40pm |
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RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579 |
ElectricClassic who have done a few nice conversions including a lovely series. Claim they use less electric off-road
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2nd Aug 2021 8:49pm |
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Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772 |
I agree. The US market will be the toughest to crack - entrenched ownership of V8's and usage of petrol. The comparison is not like-for-like in any way IMHO. Pretty much every EV has fallen short of it's claims for charge and mileage. I would never buy a Tesla product, ever. Rgds. Chris |
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2nd Aug 2021 8:53pm |
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Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 419 |
Pacha, out of curiosity, why not?
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3rd Aug 2021 7:34pm |
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Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772 |
A combination of Musk being an arse, poor quality control/build quality and the gimmick factor.
I may change my mind but do not hold your breath! Rgds. Chris |
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3rd Aug 2021 7:37pm |
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RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579 |
As Landrover drivers we can’t comment on build quality. Also the age old comment sorry that part is on back order. The joy of having done more miles in a courtesy car than your own. A company run by a mad man or in Landrover’s case designed by a mad man. Dedicated fans that won’t here a word said against them.
So all in all most of us would settle nicely into Tesla ownership. |
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3rd Aug 2021 8:02pm |
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90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2125 |
Nope I'm stuffed as won't have anything to do with allowing donkeys to shoot into space - so no Tesla or Rivian here.......
That's before you get into heir dubious personality's....... |
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3rd Aug 2021 8:06pm |
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Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772 |
Nonsense - the price difference is plus £30k. You have experience of Tesla ownership? Why are you here? Rgds. Chris |
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3rd Aug 2021 8:33pm |
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RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579 |
Why am I here??
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3rd Aug 2021 8:40pm |
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What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952 |
Initially amino acids, then evolution of mammals after the dinosaurs were wiped out, and an incredibly successful procreation line avoiding all diseases and accidents up to puberty.
That's the short version. Now left. |
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3rd Aug 2021 9:09pm |
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RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579 |
This is true. Depends if we mean here or here
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3rd Aug 2021 9:13pm |
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markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2616 |
Grenadier
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3rd Aug 2021 10:03pm |
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