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Supacat



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Pickup Sales in Europe & US 2020
Interesting to see where the pickup market is, especially as it's always referenced as the farmer's replacement for an old double cab; and JLR shied away from making a version with the new Defender.


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Car Industry Analysis (@lovecarindustry) Tweeted:

2020 results: regs of D-Pickups fell 31% to just 119,400 units. #FordRanger keeps ahead. Notice how important the brand’s heritage is in this segment, as a small brand like Mitsubishi outsells VW. This is probably why #FiatFullback #MercedesXClass #RenaultAlaskan never worked

https://t.co/15lQjhh4mn https://twitter.com/lovecarindustry/status...22305?s=20


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Post #884633 11th Feb 2021 7:23am
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SN



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Suspect the worse-than-average decline on the Isuzu DMAX is that people are hanging on for the new one (which is arriving in Europe in March only about a year after the ROW) - enjoyed mine while I had it (just sold it) and it is a good working vehicle, but its no Discovery/Defender

Also note thet the L200, Amarok and X-Class aren't running into 2021. Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
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All my fellow farmers I know are hanging onto theirs a bit longer, I bought the Defender DCPU as I didn't want to buy a new one outright (cost) or lease one as farm life isn't compatible with hand back clauses. a nice second hand TD5 even with running costs is still better value for us.
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What countries get the Gladiator? I thought Jeep had decided not sell in the EU.

ETA: I just had whistle stop tour of some randomly chosen Jeep homepages in different countries. Gladiator is available in Italy and Germany, but not France, Spain or the Netherlands or UK. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS


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How many of these have been sold to take advantage of the lower BIK on a pickup vs car? Talking to a sales guy from VW, they're doing very well with the Amorak, but the sales aren't to people using it as a pickup.
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IIRC the 4 door pick ups here in France now attract the E20k malus tax, 2 door std and 1.5 cabs don't, might have something to do with it here.

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Bluest wrote:
What countries get the Gladiator? I thought Jeep had decided not sell in the EU.

ETA: I just had whistle stop tour of some randomly chosen Jeep homepages in different countries. Gladiator is available in Italy and Germany, but not France, Spain or the Netherlands or UK.


Correction. They are being sold in the Netherlands. They have them at several Jeep dealers.
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ickle wrote:
IIRC the 4 door pick ups here in France now attract the E20k malus tax, 2 door std and 1.5 cabs don't, might have something to do with it here.

Keith


Nuts, isn’t it? Almost doubles the price of the car. Yet as a brand new model, with a Euro-wherever-we-are-now engine, it is probably cleaner than the millions of 20 year old clios and kangoos ragging around France at any given moment. Locally, loads of people drive 2/1.5/4 door pick ups rounds here. Construction firms, ski companies, utilities and of course the cool dudes for whom a pick up is part of the ski/MTB outdoor lifestyle. For most it is a genuinely necessary vehicle. What are they expecting them to buy instead? Where’s the fully electric pick up option? As ever, drivers are an easy target.

Where I live is the second most polluted part of France after Paris. Yup, the Alps, at the foot of Mont Blanc. But 85% of the pollution comes from log fires, oil burners and local factories, not cars or trucks going through the MB tunnel. Just down the hill we have an industrial burner that burns waste from as far afield as Marseille, (why?????), and a graphite factory that churns all kinds of rubbish into the air. The region is also the European heart of precision metal parts for the airline industry (20+ factories), and loads upon loads of people still use green logs to heat their homes and if not, oil burners.

Targeting cars such as this which sell in tiny numbers is completely disjointed thinking, but an easy PR-win with the green lobby. There are so many things that pollute more but are not being addressed because the ‘sell’ is too difficult. Hard to tell Mr and Mrs Bernard (aged 82, retired farmers) to get rid of their log-burning or oil-burning heating, easier to target the bloke (or blokess) who can afford to buy a 25k€+ car..... Whistle

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^ Cars are the easy target, central heating isn't an easy target. (the uk's Censored building regs) aren't an easy target. Cars are.
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Another market that's not seen a pandemic effect?

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Car Industry Analysis (@lovecarindustry) Tweeted:

2020 results: sales of midsize pickups fell only 5% to 608,600 units in USA. All models lag behind the popular #ToyotaTacoma. Nevertheless, it was a good year for #FordRanger and #JeepGladiator.

#carindustryanalysis #felipemunoz #carsales #carstats #pickup #pickuptruck https://t.co/sYr5Sq6W8B https://twitter.com/lovecarindustry/status...03649?s=20
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