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Please keep the thread on topic, it was not supposed to be a Donald Trump bashing session thread.. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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Trump and Brexit will always be inextricably linked. Ideologically and also because of Russian interference in both the US election and Brexit referendum.
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What are you on, heard it all now! Rolling with laughter Thud Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
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Lateralus wrote:
nitram17 wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
There will always be difficulties discussing Mr Trump in a civilised environment because his extremist views provoke a reaction.


Can you give me some examples of extremist views President Trump has?



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/0...mp;gwt=pay

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/don...60bf777e83

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...82736.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/mi...t-language



Those really aren't views you listed but the overall theme from the articles is that Trump is racist. It's really no surprise as this is the tried and true fallback attack of the left In America. Never mind Trump has had many close back friends over the years and had a good relationship with two prominent civit rights/politcal black figures, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Donated to their causes, helped Al Sharptons mistress get a hotel because she couldnt find a place. How politically convenient that Trumps obvious racist views would all of a sudden come out in 2015/2016 when running against a democrat!

Trump is such a racist that longtime friend and pro football player Hershal Walker took Trumps kids to stay with his family while Trump was going through divorce. Trump is such a racist that his election garnered more black votes that 2 previous Republican presidential candidates and garnered more latino votes than Mitt Romneys election. Democrat leaning, pro Hillary Latino actor and comedian George Lopez said in an interview with MSNBC, that he didnt believe Trump was racist.

I could go on and on but at the end of the day you're going to believe what you want and select news to validate your bias. The most unbiased way to get a clear picture of Trump on the topic is to examine coverage of him before his run for office. It's clear hes at least racially insensitive. He wasnt born in an era where you couldnt criticize people of color or muslims or gays etc. You guys on the left live by that religion, not us.


What makes you so special fella?as you appear to be immune from the almighty meja?


I am an individual, born free in one of the greatest countries on the planet.


No fella what makes you special!
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I suspect that absolutely no-one has changed their pre-held views on either Brexit or Trump, as a result of this thread.

So although it has been fun (for those of us interested in politics) I think I may retire now, and go away to prepare for the end of the world, or the end of the EU - which ever comes first.


Please someone, put up a picture of a nice Defender so I can go away all happy....... Razz
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Lateralus,

When a Forum member writes: “You should of adjusted you’re breaks first”, no matter how good his advice we tend to be pretty dismissive; if he can’t even write, how can he be a good mechanic?

Similarly, Trump’s Tweets, Twots and Soundbites - which, let’s face it, got him elected - often devalue important issues. For example, his awareness of the risks of trying to reverse Quantitative Easing too quickly merits more persuasive argument than a thowaway “Stop with the 50 Bs”. But perhaps he feels that plebeians can’t assimilate anything more complex than “Build a wall and all our Mexicans will disappear by magic, and the American Dream will be reclaimed (cf. “Leave the EU and all our unwanted “guests” will disappear by magic, and the UK will morph into George Orwell’s “England Your England”).

Peter

That’s the problem right there. If anyone wants controlled immigration they are basically racist and want all foreigners to go home apparently Rolling Eyes just because you see in black and white doesn’t mean everyone else does. There’s nothing wrong with controlling borders and it isn’t racist!!! Ray
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custom90steve wrote:
What are you on, heard it all now! Rolling with laughter Thud


The US senate provided a damning report providing evidence of Russian meddling and support for the Brexit campaign and security services on both sides of the pond have confirmed as much.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan...ate-report

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/...rexit-vote

The senate findings are obviously provided on the links but I have no doubt the above evidence will be ignored or mocked as fake news as your sort always tend to do.

BTW Steve, Will there be a Salisbury Plain meet anytime soon? It would be good to meet up. Put a face to all the emojis and all that.

Edit: Sorry, keep ballsing up the quotes


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Err, oops, sorry. Shocked Rolling with laughter


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I'll take both!
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nitram17 wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
nitram17 wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
There will always be difficulties discussing Mr Trump in a civilised environment because his extremist views provoke a reaction.


Can you give me some examples of extremist views President Trump has?



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/0...mp;gwt=pay

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/don...60bf777e83

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...82736.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/mi...t-language



Those really aren't views you listed but the overall theme from the articles is that Trump is racist. It's really no surprise as this is the tried and true fallback attack of the left In America. Never mind Trump has had many close back friends over the years and had a good relationship with two prominent civit rights/politcal black figures, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Donated to their causes, helped Al Sharptons mistress get a hotel because she couldnt find a place. How politically convenient that Trumps obvious racist views would all of a sudden come out in 2015/2016 when running against a democrat!

Trump is such a racist that longtime friend and pro football player Hershal Walker took Trumps kids to stay with his family while Trump was going through divorce. Trump is such a racist that his election garnered more black votes that 2 previous Republican presidential candidates and garnered more latino votes than Mitt Romneys election. Democrat leaning, pro Hillary Latino actor and comedian George Lopez said in an interview with MSNBC, that he didnt believe Trump was racist.

I could go on and on but at the end of the day you're going to believe what you want and select news to validate your bias. The most unbiased way to get a clear picture of Trump on the topic is to examine coverage of him before his run for office. It's clear hes at least racially insensitive. He wasnt born in an era where you couldnt criticize people of color or muslims or gays etc. You guys on the left live by that religion, not us.


What makes you so special fella?as you appear to be immune from the almighty meja?


I am an individual, born free in one of the greatest countries on the planet.


No fella what makes you special!


I just told you. Born free in one of the greatest countries men and women have died and bled to establish. It is my duty as an American to preserve it for my children and his children.
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Zed wrote:
custom90steve wrote:
What are you on, heard it all now! Rolling with laughter Thud


The US senate provided a damning report providing evidence of Russian meddling and support for the Brexit campaign and security services on both sides of the pond have confirmed as much.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan...ate-report

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/...rexit-vote

The senate findings are obviously provided on the links but I have no doubt the above evidence will be ignored or mocked as fake news as your sort always tend to do.

BTW Steve, Will there be a Salisbury Plain meet anytime soon? It would be good to meet up. Put a face to all the emojis and all that.

Edit: Sorry, keep ballsing up the quotes


Our intelligence agency's also concluded that Russian outlets had little affect on the outcome of the 2016 election and played both sides of the politcal aisles. A British agent, Christopher Steele did work with Obama intelligence officials to obtain FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign. Theres the real collusion.
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Here's the thing. In response to some of the more outlandish comments on this thread I've voiced a different opinion and backed it up with fact based evidence.
It is not my intention to try and change anybody elses mind. Far from it. Quite honestly I couldn't give a monkey's what anyone else on here thinks. I've just provided an alternative view with actual facts.

For the record, some on here have said they don't care about the risks of Brexit as they believe it's a price worth paying. Although I disagree with that POV I do completely respect it. However to deny there won't be detrimental consequences is pure fantasy. It's already happening and we haven't even left yet. The pound has tanked, investment has stalled, hundreds of billions of pounds have been shifted abroad and many companies have already packed their bags.

Sadly a minority have chosen to ignore facts, argue semantics or give an opinion only backed up by snidey insults and smilies. Well crack on, that's obviously your prerogative but it is very telling indeed.
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Lateralus wrote:
nitram17 wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
nitram17 wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
There will always be difficulties discussing Mr Trump in a civilised environment because his extremist views provoke a reaction.


Can you give me some examples of extremist views President Trump has?



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/0...mp;gwt=pay

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/don...60bf777e83

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...82736.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/mi...t-language



Those really aren't views you listed but the overall theme from the articles is that Trump is racist. It's really no surprise as this is the tried and true fallback attack of the left In America. Never mind Trump has had many close back friends over the years and had a good relationship with two prominent civit rights/politcal black figures, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Donated to their causes, helped Al Sharptons mistress get a hotel because she couldnt find a place. How politically convenient that Trumps obvious racist views would all of a sudden come out in 2015/2016 when running against a democrat!

Trump is such a racist that longtime friend and pro football player Hershal Walker took Trumps kids to stay with his family while Trump was going through divorce. Trump is such a racist that his election garnered more black votes that 2 previous Republican presidential candidates and garnered more latino votes than Mitt Romneys election. Democrat leaning, pro Hillary Latino actor and comedian George Lopez said in an interview with MSNBC, that he didnt believe Trump was racist.

I could go on and on but at the end of the day you're going to believe what you want and select news to validate your bias. The most unbiased way to get a clear picture of Trump on the topic is to examine coverage of him before his run for office. It's clear hes at least racially insensitive. He wasnt born in an era where you couldnt criticize people of color or muslims or gays etc. You guys on the left live by that religion, not us.


What makes you so special fella?as you appear to be immune from the almighty meja?


I am an individual, born free in one of the greatest countries on the planet.


No fella what makes you special!


I just told you. Born free in one of the greatest countries men and women have died and bled to establish. It is my duty as an American to preserve it for my children and his children.


No fella what makes you special and immune to the meja? ...all you reply with is your a free american wlell there are 250 million plus americans and according you many are being duped by the leftish mejia..i will try once more ..what makes larealus so special?Do you have a tin foil hat?or cloak?
We could just ignore politics and try to focus on defenders......well i am at an age sadly where the defender wins Big Cry Embarassed Rolling with laughter



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Quoting links of the internet from any old source from any old bias editor wherever they maybe be in the world is not facts.
It’s widely known around the world that the media will put a spin on anything possible.

Look at the snow we’ve had, you’d honestly think we’d had an earthquake with 100’s of deaths occur.
We’ve had snow before, more so last year even than now. And many many times more in the past.

A lot of people’s behaviour around is unusual to say the least too. Like grown men(?) going around with tights on and a hat with stars on etc etc.

Everyone can form their own conclusions to things..

It’s getting rather tiring now. Yawn Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧


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