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Lateralus



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Zed wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
There will always be difficulties discussing Mr Trump in a civilised environment because his extremist views provoke a reaction.


Can you give me some examples of extremist views President Trump has?



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/0...mp;gwt=pay

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/don...60bf777e83

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...82736.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/mi...t-language



Those really aren't views you listed but the overall theme from the articles is that Trump is racist. It's really no surprise as this is the tried and true fallback attack of the left In America. Never mind Trump has had many close back friends over the years and had a good relationship with two prominent civit rights/politcal black figures, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Donated to their causes, helped Al Sharptons mistress get a hotel because she couldnt find a place. How politically convenient that Trumps obvious racist views would all of a sudden come out in 2015/2016 when running against a democrat!

Trump is such a racist that longtime friend and pro football player Hershal Walker took Trumps kids to stay with his family while Trump was going through divorce. Trump is such a racist that his election garnered more black votes that 2 previous Republican presidential candidates and garnered more latino votes than Mitt Romneys election. Democrat leaning, pro Hillary Latino actor and comedian George Lopez said in an interview with MSNBC, that he didnt believe Trump was racist.

I could go on and on but at the end of the day you're going to believe what you want and select news to validate your bias. The most unbiased way to get a clear picture of Trump on the topic is to examine coverage of him before his run for office. It's clear hes at least racially insensitive. He wasnt born in an era where you couldnt criticize people of color or muslims or gays etc. You guys on the left live by that religion, not us.
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Seriously, that sounds like proper Russian troll farm spiel.

I'm out.
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Racist, xenophobic, "russian"....all intellectually deficient labels that are commonplace with the American left today.

This week they are trying go expand abortion to be allowed up to actual child birth.
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[quote="Lateralus"]
Zed wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
There will always be difficulties discussing Mr Trump in a civilised environment because his extremist views provoke a reaction.


Can you give me some examples of extremist views President Trump has?



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/0...mp;gwt=pay

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/don...60bf777e83

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...82736.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/mi...t-language



Those really aren't views you listed but the overall theme from the articles is that Trump is racist. It's really no surprise as this is the tried and true fallback attack of the left In America. Never mind Trump has had many close back friends over the years and had a good relationship with two prominent civit rights/politcal black figures, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Donated to their causes, helped Al Sharptons mistress get a hotel because she couldnt find a place. How politically convenient that Trumps obvious racist views would all of a sudden come out in 2015/2016 when running against a democrat!

Trump is such a racist that longtime friend and pro football player Hershal Walker took Trumps kids to stay with his family while Trump was going through divorce. Trump is such a racist that his election garnered more black votes that 2 previous Republican presidential candidates and garnered more latino votes than Mitt Romneys election. Democrat leaning, pro Hillary Latino actor and comedian George Lopez said in an interview with MSNBC, that he didnt believe Trump was racist.

I could go on and on but at the end of the day you're going to believe what you want and select news to validate your bias. The most unbiased way to get a clear picture of Trump on the topic is to examine coverage of him before his run for office. It's clear hes at least racially insensitive. He wasnt born in an era where you couldnt criticize people of color or muslims or gays etc. You guys on the left live by that religion, not us.[/qu
ote]
Well said, I agree.
Pickles.
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He's strong on border security too, which I'm told (too many EU people coming into UK taking jobs & welfare etc), is why many voted for Brexit.


This was a pretty common feeling from a lot of people, but not true. EU migrants contribute way over the average UK adult, with non-EU immigrants being the ones having a negative impact.

https://www.oxfordeconomics.com/recent-rel...250df6dbba
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Don’t worry about Brexit

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/...eal-brexit

Unilever are stockpiling Magnum Icecreams.

Well I for one will be sleeping just that little bit sounder tonight knowing that my favourite ice cream will be available no matter what happens Thumbs Up
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Excellent news. Now I can truly feel proud of my country.


Meanwhile in Trumpland...

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One thing that Brexit is doing is revealing just how much "stuff" we have sunk into importing from others, when we could just as easily make it ourselves.

I wonder why the environmentalists are not jumping for joy that tomatoes may not be transported a thousand miles (say the BBC) by lorry from southern Spain, just so that many of them can be chucked into landfill, after their sell-by date.

Maybe a clean (not "hard") Brexit could be an opportunity to rein-in our unsustainable lifestyle aspirations, and introduce a little more sanity into "market forces"?

Probably not, but there's no harm in hoping.


PS. Whilst the country is apparently heading for Armageddon and disaster, I have to confess that Brexit has forced me to come to terms with the fact that my life will not be utterly ruined if the supermarket shelves become empty of red peppers and Prosecco.

One has to make sacrifices.......
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Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
There will always be difficulties discussing Mr Trump in a civilised environment because his extremist views provoke a reaction.


Can you give me some examples of extremist views President Trump has?



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/0...mp;gwt=pay

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/don...60bf777e83

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...82736.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/mi...t-language



Those really aren't views you listed but the overall theme from the articles is that Trump is racist. It's really no surprise as this is the tried and true fallback attack of the left In America. Never mind Trump has had many close back friends over the years and had a good relationship with two prominent civit rights/politcal black figures, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Donated to their causes, helped Al Sharptons mistress get a hotel because she couldnt find a place. How politically convenient that Trumps obvious racist views would all of a sudden come out in 2015/2016 when running against a democrat!

Trump is such a racist that longtime friend and pro football player Hershal Walker took Trumps kids to stay with his family while Trump was going through divorce. Trump is such a racist that his election garnered more black votes that 2 previous Republican presidential candidates and garnered more latino votes than Mitt Romneys election. Democrat leaning, pro Hillary Latino actor and comedian George Lopez said in an interview with MSNBC, that he didnt believe Trump was racist.

I could go on and on but at the end of the day you're going to believe what you want and select news to validate your bias. The most unbiased way to get a clear picture of Trump on the topic is to examine coverage of him before his run for office. It's clear hes at least racially insensitive. He wasnt born in an era where you couldnt criticize people of color or muslims or gays etc. You guys on the left live by that religion, not us.


What makes you so special fella?as you appear to be immune from the almighty meja?
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Slideywindows wrote:
One thing that Brexit is doing is revealing just how much "stuff" we have sunk into importing from others, when we could just as easily make it ourselves.

I wonder why the environmentalists are not jumping for joy that tomatoes may not be transported a thousand miles (say the BBC) by lorry from southern Spain, just so that many of them can be chucked into landfill, after their sell-by date.

Maybe a clean (not "hard") Brexit could be an opportunity to rein-in our unsustainable lifestyle aspirations, and introduce a little more sanity into "market forces"?

Probably not, but there's no harm in hoping.


PS. Whilst the country is apparently heading for Armageddon and disaster, I have to confess that Brexit has forced me to come to terms with the fact that my life will not be utterly ruined if the supermarket shelves become empty of red peppers and Prosecco.

One has to make sacrifices.......


Money always looks for the cheapest deal ,be it labour ,parts or whatever............the cats out of the bag fella you cannot turn back the clock as globalisation of money makes countries irrelevent.You try to ring fence stuff and money will go somewhere else .......trumps tactics will work in the short term but they wont last and i doubt he cares!
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Lateralus



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nitram17 wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Zed wrote:
There will always be difficulties discussing Mr Trump in a civilised environment because his extremist views provoke a reaction.


Can you give me some examples of extremist views President Trump has?



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/0...mp;gwt=pay

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/don...60bf777e83

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...82736.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/mi...t-language



Those really aren't views you listed but the overall theme from the articles is that Trump is racist. It's really no surprise as this is the tried and true fallback attack of the left In America. Never mind Trump has had many close back friends over the years and had a good relationship with two prominent civit rights/politcal black figures, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Donated to their causes, helped Al Sharptons mistress get a hotel because she couldnt find a place. How politically convenient that Trumps obvious racist views would all of a sudden come out in 2015/2016 when running against a democrat!

Trump is such a racist that longtime friend and pro football player Hershal Walker took Trumps kids to stay with his family while Trump was going through divorce. Trump is such a racist that his election garnered more black votes that 2 previous Republican presidential candidates and garnered more latino votes than Mitt Romneys election. Democrat leaning, pro Hillary Latino actor and comedian George Lopez said in an interview with MSNBC, that he didnt believe Trump was racist.

I could go on and on but at the end of the day you're going to believe what you want and select news to validate your bias. The most unbiased way to get a clear picture of Trump on the topic is to examine coverage of him before his run for office. It's clear hes at least racially insensitive. He wasnt born in an era where you couldnt criticize people of color or muslims or gays etc. You guys on the left live by that religion, not us.


What makes you so special fella?as you appear to be immune from the almighty meja?


I am an individual, born free in one of the greatest countries on the planet.
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Lateralus



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Slideywindows wrote:
One thing that Brexit is doing is revealing just how much "stuff" we have sunk into importing from others, when we could just as easily make it ourselves.

I wonder why the environmentalists are not jumping for joy that tomatoes may not be transported a thousand miles (say the BBC) by lorry from southern Spain, just so that many of them can be chucked into landfill, after their sell-by date.

Maybe a clean (not "hard") Brexit could be an opportunity to rein-in our unsustainable lifestyle aspirations, and introduce a little more sanity into "market forces"?

Probably not, but there's no harm in hoping.


PS. Whilst the country is apparently heading for Armageddon and disaster, I have to confess that Brexit has forced me to come to terms with the fact that my life will not be utterly ruined if the supermarket shelves become empty of red peppers and Prosecco.

One has to make sacrifices.......


Excellent point. If westerners really cared about the environment, why not keep goods and manufacturing local so that they face the scrutiny of the heavy regulations that they have imposed rather than outsourcing to China and other places where there is little concern for the environment by those governments.

Maybe they really dont care about pollution? They just dont want it in their back yards.
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Lateralus,

When a Forum member writes: “You should of adjusted you’re breaks first”, no matter how good his advice we tend to be pretty dismissive; if he can’t even write, how can he be a good mechanic?

Similarly, Trump’s Tweets, Twots and Soundbites - which, let’s face it, got him elected - often devalue important issues. For example, his awareness of the risks of trying to reverse Quantitative Easing too quickly merits more persuasive argument than a thowaway “Stop with the 50 Bs”. But perhaps he feels that plebeians can’t assimilate anything more complex than “Build a wall and all our Mexicans will disappear by magic, and the American Dream will be reclaimed (cf. “Leave the EU and all our unwanted “guests” will disappear by magic, and the UK will morph into George Orwell’s “England Your England”).

Peter
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Trump supporters dont want to rid America from Mexicans. We want controlled immigration with people who want to be Americans and not useful pawns to the identity politics on the left. We dont want our to undercut our working class. It's a pretty simple demand.
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