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Lateralus



Member Since: 05 Jan 2016
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Americans want the alpha version, the original utilitarian bad ass defender. Not the kinder gentler beta version with defender name tag that starts at 60k.

This is sad news.

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Sulisuli



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

If they do a 4 door version think I will be one of the first to put my name down Rolling with laughter see the thread on double backdoors. Being a sewage diver at least I know how deep the 💩 will be at work today.
2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
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Post #700707 14th Apr 2018 6:33am
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dorsetsmith



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LRJ report card reads needs to do better Whistle Whistle and stop looking over fords plans and copying D- ) pickup 90 TD5 2006

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Post #700724 14th Apr 2018 8:24am
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milesr3



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If it really does have premium durability, like a G Class but at a lower price, and it is not just marketing BS then I will be interested.

Post #700730 14th Apr 2018 8:51am
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Ramajama



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I read more than a few times that they are going to make it in various trims..from spartan utilitarian to very posh. So we’ll see. I’ll likely want something in the middle.
They are going to offer it in a 90, 110 and a truck. That’s the extent of the “family”

We got a mailer today with a brochure entitled “Icon” .. “the lost pages” A little tribute to the Defender. Marketing is ramping up to target current owners. I’m getting excited.

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Ramajama



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discomog wrote:
I have no doubt that the new Defender will be the most technologically advanced and have the most amazing off road ability but it will as stated come at a price.

I was absolutely amazed when I took my Disco Sport off road for the first time a few weeks ago, even with standard road going tyres it had no problems negotiating some very muddy hill climbs, the same hills that had already defeated a Q7 and an X5. It was extremely sure footed downhill using terrain response and hill descent control. Having recently taken a D5 off road it was pretty obvious to me that once I had got used to all the electronic driver aids it would be virtually unbeatable. I have no qualms about the new Defenders's ability both on tarmac and off road but I am concerned about the pricing and also I would like to see it being of a more rugged appearance than the current offerings from JLR.


I’ve b en very pleased with our Disco Sports off road capability as well. The little thing is a mountain goat.

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adafish



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NITRA.......that's all I'm saying... Wink Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull..

Post #700950 15th Apr 2018 10:03am
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Nitra, Slovakia..... of course. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
And oops, the front mirror fell off...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw

Post #700961 15th Apr 2018 11:16am
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Slideywindows



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Lateralus wrote:
Americans want the alpha version, the original utilitarian bad ass defender.


I hope you Americans wrote in large numbers to Gerry McGovern.

Otherwise we we are going to get an expensive blancmange that is very capable off-road. Yawn



However, I still remain foolishly optimistic.

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Supacat



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ericvv wrote:
Nitra, Slovakia..... of course.


I thought part of the rationale for previous investment in large presses, etc & the shared D7u platform underpinnings across several different models were that the Defender could share a production line anywhere the D7u was being produced...

https://automotivemanufacturingsolutions.c...-xe-factor


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LandRoverAnorak



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That only works if there's spare capacity to do so, which there apparently isn't. The design work (including the production design) obviously isn't wasted though. 

MY USW BUILD THREAD

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Supacat



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Article is from Nov 2014 and states:

"With a capacity of 168,000 units in the new Solihull plant for the XE and related models, Jaguar must be hoping to more than double sales from last year’s figure of just under 77,0000."

Not sure where they are on these numbers today, but given the 25% downturn in last months sales, the laying off of 1,000 contract workers, and the fact that this plant was future proofed as part of the global 1m sales per annum, then has it really got no spare capacity today?

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Grenadier



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Mrs Grenadier did some Googling after I sent her the snow silhouette (she does like the Def and its community, even though she grumbles and pretends not to) and came across this rendering, which I've not seen before. Being the owner of a grey DCPU, I quite like it Thumbs Up


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 Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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Swine&Small



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Looks like a Discovery that has been in an accident 2015 Defender 90"
1950 Series one 80"
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2012 VW T5 Camper
Quod Abundat Non Obstat.

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LandRoverAnorak



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Supacat wrote:
Article is from Nov 2014 and states:

"With a capacity of 168,000 units in the new Solihull plant for the XE and related models, Jaguar must be hoping to more than double sales from last year’s figure of just under 77,0000."

Not sure where they are on these numbers today, but given the 25% downturn in last months sales, the laying off of 1,000 contract workers, and the fact that this plant was future proofed as part of the global 1m sales per annum, then has it really got no spare capacity today?

Is that a rhetorical question? I don't think any of us have enough information to adequately second guess their production strategy. 

MY USW BUILD THREAD

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