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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

yikes, the problem is getting worse!

this morning on startup, there was a large white cloud of smoke, which didn't go away for at least 5 min, even while driving.

I ran a scan and there were a lot of faults about injectors:


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and also these:


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Now my battery is dying, could a low battery cause this? --

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dgardel



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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Sorry Naks but I can't see the photos.... Defender 90SW SE Puma Stornoway Grey Outback Engineering Edition


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Naks wrote:
yikes, the problem is getting worse!

Now my battery is dying, could a low battery cause this?


Normally not, the Defender isn't "battery sensible" like the D3 or D4 go or no go..... Defender 90SW SE Puma Stornoway Grey Outback Engineering Edition


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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Dammit, I was hoping it was just the battery. Sad

In any case, the battery is 7 years old and is busy dying, so replacing it won't hurt. I will report back once I get the car back from the auto electrician. --

2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear



Puma Workshop Manual: http://1drv.ms/1nNpJeM
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

update: replacing the battery had no effect on the smoky startup

waiting for a slot at my indie to have the VCV replaced. --

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did you solve this?

my 90, 2.4 69k miles has same symptons as original post under same conditions.

had do i check VCV and Fuel pressure rail relief valve??

MAP and MAF are good. Cheers

James

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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Not yet James, landy is in the shop this week for the glow plugs & injectors to be removed & tested while I'm going to Singapore.

I will report back once the tests have been done. --

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ok, so its obviously not a show stopper from using it then considering the time. Cheers

James

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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

James, that is correct, I have been driving it like this since June.

BUT, if the injectors are fubar and leak too much diesel, you run the risk of burning holes through the pistons. There is also the risk of the engine oil being diluted too much, which can cause the crank to snap.

I have avoided doing any long distance driving (anything over 40km) just in case. --

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she is not burning excessive diesel or loosing it and engine oil is all good.

would that indicate more likely to be the PRRV? Cheers

James

www.4x4adventures.co.uk
110 XS Utility
90 TC 2.8TGV auto
90 tdci Softtop - FOR SALE

Post #650083 13th Sep 2017 1:10pm
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Just heard back from my indie: injectors were tested and are fine.

Glow plugs are also fine.

Not sure where to go from here. --

2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear



Puma Workshop Manual: http://1drv.ms/1nNpJeM
D4 Workshop Manual: http://bit.ly/22l8YHh
RRS Workshop Manual: http://bit.ly/2iH7jgG

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EGR? Cheers

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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

no, the EGR is shut via the remap. --

2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear



Puma Workshop Manual: http://1drv.ms/1nNpJeM
D4 Workshop Manual: http://bit.ly/22l8YHh
RRS Workshop Manual: http://bit.ly/2iH7jgG

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