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The Boy

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
Posts: 1459

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red

BigMike wrote:
The Boy wrote:
Only that you get slightly better dif clearance. oh and it makes the speedo run true

285/75 and 16 inch wheels give you a wheel / tyre combination height of 83.39cm
265/75 and 16 inch wheels give you a wheel / tyre combination height of 80.39cm
235/85 and 16 inch wheels give you a wheel / tyre combination height of 80.59cm

So you get 3cm more diff clearance assuming I've done the maths right. BFG AT 235/85 are £126.50 and the same in 285/75 are £142.60 at camskill so assuming for the case of argument that's what you pay, you're paying 80 quid for 3 cm of ground clearance on the tyres alone, plus you need different wheels to the boosts and quite a bit more than 80 quid.

I'm all for modifications, but this is one I don't understand. Ok if you're doing challenge events in your purpose built trayback then you might want big simex tyres etc, but for standard defender use ie road, green lanes, beach, quarry etc, I'm not getting this 285 thing Or is it just that they look better? If so then fair enough

Not quite sure why I need to explain how or on what I spend my hard earned money but hopefully you meant it in a light hearted way so here goes.

I bought my 5 x 285's BFG and 16 x 8.5 wheels and tyres for £500 quid from someone who had bought them and never got round to fitting (well he did but only for a 950 miles), he needed some cash quick and I had some in my pocket at the time. Lucky I guess. Apart from our 90 which has 255's BFG muds on all my defenders have had either 235's or 750's. Don't have anything against them or any problems apart from I think they look a bit skinny. I do like the look the 285's give the vehicle but can't see many advantages over the 235's. The only disadvantage I can think of is the muck they throw up against the sides of the panels just after I have spent hours cleaning it, but hey its a land rover and looks good dirty. There is no two defenders the same and we all make ours just a little different than the next one, that’s the attraction I think. Might go for 265’s next time but probably stick with 285’s when they wear out which might be some time yet.

Boy

1st Mar 2011 4:18pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green

Agree the big pain with 285's is the amount of crap they throw up, in winter it takes only a few miles before you can't see out the side windows, I was contemplating fitting wider arches if i'd kept my 285's. The 255 85 16's give a circ of 83.9cm so are a smidgen taller than 285 75 16. the 285's always look good though

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110 HCPU Tipper

1st Mar 2011 4:25pm

The Boy

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
Posts: 1459

willy eckerslike wrote:
Agree the big pain with 285's is the amount of crap they throw up, in winter it takes only a few miles before you can't see out the side windows, I was contemplating fitting wider arches if i'd kept my 285's. The 255 85 16's give a circ of 83.9cm so are a smidgen taller than 285 75 16. the 285's always look good though

I love 255's but you really need a lift to use them and from what some have said Puma's don't like being lifted.

1st Mar 2011 4:27pm

BigRuss

Member Since: 15 May 2010
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 2785

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Glynparry25 wrote:
BigRuss wrote:
Now not to pick hairs with the hole 285/265 on 7"/8" wide wheels but I had a quick look on Devon 4x4's website after AndrewS said he was fitting terrafirma alloys with beadlocks wrappped in 305 bfg's.
Now I don't profes to know what's best but if you follow the link they say that 7x16 is good for up to 300mm

http://www.devon4x4.com/index.php?page=sho...;Itemid=14

Russ, I wouldn't trust that.... It is the tyre company that lays out the peramaters or their tyres. Also you will find out that some 285s are only 275 wide and others can be upto 305 wide depending on what tollerences they are made to.
Glyn

Don't worry I was just pointing out some thing I had come across. Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black

1st Mar 2011 6:51pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

The Boy wrote:
willy eckerslike wrote:
Agree the big pain with 285's is the amount of crap they throw up, in winter it takes only a few miles before you can't see out the side windows, I was contemplating fitting wider arches if i'd kept my 285's. The 255 85 16's give a circ of 83.9cm so are a smidgen taller than 285 75 16. the 285's always look good though

I love 255's but you really need a lift to use them and from what some have said Puma's don't like being lifted.

My thinking was, the're the same diameter as the 285's and they didn't rub so the 255' should be OK

I'll have to get her on full articulation and find out Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper

1st Mar 2011 7:10pm

v40mav

Member Since: 25 Aug 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 206

The Boy wrote:
willy eckerslike wrote:
Agree the big pain with 285's is the amount of crap they throw up, in winter it takes only a few miles before you can't see out the side windows, I was contemplating fitting wider arches if i'd kept my 285's. The 255 85 16's give a circ of 83.9cm so are a smidgen taller than 285 75 16. the 285's always look good though

I love 255's but you really need a lift to use them and from what some have said Puma's don't like being lifted.

What is the issue with a 2" lift. Lots has been said about puma not liking but what is the real issue. My td5 had no issues at all so I'm struggling to understand this one.

My pref would be 255's but not spending the cash if they cause issues. Looks like Mr sensible will stick to 265's just now. Defender 110 County SW

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1st Mar 2011 7:19pm

BigMike

Member Since: 13 Jul 2010
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2253

Boy, of course lighthearted. hence the laugh icons in the post

1st Mar 2011 10:38pm

JSG

Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2412

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

The Boy wrote:
From what Hartwell’s of Northampton told me last week that 265’s would not qualify if warrantee work was required along with my 285. However they are a bunch of crooks anyway so I would not take the slightest bit of notice at all. I have had work done to my 110 at Marshalls under warrantee and they were happy with the 285’s and so I think it is up to who you use.

That's interesting - sounds like they are being really picky to get out of paying for anything. So much for customer satisfaction

I guess that as 285s are not on the current option list and never were for the Puma they can do that. John

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2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

1st Mar 2011 10:49pm

landy andy

Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Ware, Herts
Posts: 5428

2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

From my understanding of the Tdci is that the engine, and gearbox are not mounted level. So that when you lift the body higher to the axles, it increases the angles that the props have to work (one much more than the other (front I think)), which it dislikes.

This is what Gwyn Lewis told a mate, who then changed from his +2" ( or more) to +1" via Gwyn and got back his road maners.

Andy

1st Mar 2011 11:13pm

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