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MC84



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Chawton White
Lock barrels on a TD5 2001
Hi, I have bought 4 barrels and keys (not ignition) as mine have seen better days. Two questions before I start the job:

1) Is it straight forward and do you have any tips?

2) I have an OEM fuel filler cap, can I swap the barrel in that too?

Thanks
Post #540523 15th Jun 2016 7:56pm
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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
1 - Yes.

Looks like the barrels are the wrong length initially. There's an extra 'bit' on the back that takes a surprising amount of force to remove. The is a sprung pin that locks it onto the actual barrel part.This is for the front doors. Not done my rear door yet.

2 - I believe so, but mine never came with a locking filler!
Post #540536 15th Jun 2016 8:39pm
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Lancerdoc999



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I want/need to do this also. Why not get a set of barrels that include also the ignition so you only have one key. Then follow one of the mods on here that glues the key into the fob and hey presto, you have one key/fob combined.
Post #540593 15th Jun 2016 11:33pm
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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
Not so easy on the older models I think. From memory it's a different type of barrel on the ignition. Ignition key certainly a lot longer than door keys!
Post #540601 16th Jun 2016 12:28am
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4RF RDS



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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
Nope, my 2000MY has a aingle key and the ignition key dives right into the door locks and disappears but it locks and unlocks each time. Seems to go right through the barrel. The only separate key is the fuel cap. The fob mod with the key is an excelkent one to consider as well. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
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Post #540603 16th Jun 2016 12:54am
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MC84



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Chawton White
Thanks for the advice. At the mo I have a number of different keys, the ignition being the longest one. When I got the Defender I was given a host of random keys.

The ignition certainly seems to be a different profile to the door locks.

4RD RDS: Some of my locks could be opened with a spoon, could the reason your ignition key opens the doors be due to wear?
Post #540636 16th Jun 2016 8:29am
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jeffersj



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United Kingdom 1996 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Bronze Green
Did it on a 96 300tdi all 3 doors and ignition without any problem, Manages to do ignition without have to take off upper dash trim, so if I can do it anyone can. Fuel filler cap locks different so did not bother with that. Jeff
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Post #540645 16th Jun 2016 8:51am
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huffhuff



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Java Black
When I got my 90, it came with 1 key for drivers door, 1 for ignition, 1 for rear and 1 for fuel cap. I ended up buying a set with new ignition barrel. However, after replacing the fronts, they could still be opened with a stone/penny/fingernail/anything lying around. Thinking I was just unlucky, I ordered another set, a different make from a different supplier. Same again.

So, in the end I removed the barrels from the doors, replaced them with a nut/bolt and plugged the hole with a cap. I rely solely on the central locking now. I saw it as too much of a security risk. TD5 Defender 90
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Post #540662 16th Jun 2016 9:28am
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4RF RDS



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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
Actually no, mine was German Gov't owned vehicle and when I bought it it came with everythng including the iriginal bill of sale and all keys. It even had the key for the centre cubby box latch (obviously never used) It only ever had the single key from hew and the locks are quite secure. No spoon, penny, finger nail opening going on with this one. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Post #540729 16th Jun 2016 1:28pm
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Lancerdoc999



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my understanding was that you can get the combined ignition and door barrel set for an earlier version but you would have to change the door handles to the more modern version ones to accommodate the larger barrel. I want one key fob that does everything. Am I right?
Post #540874 16th Jun 2016 9:20pm
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MC84



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Chawton White
I've fitted one on the drivers side, all went well.

When I took out the barrel first I thought I had been sent the wrong lock. But MIKER was right, you need to remove the "tail" and swap it over.

I noticed before I swapped the barrel there seems to be a lot of extra rotation needed before the lock actuates. Looking at the design of the 2 parts this seems how it should be. Why has it been designed like this or am I overlooking something?

The bit on the right fits hole down inside the other part.

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Post #541547 19th Jun 2016 5:37pm
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4RF RDS



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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
MC 84 you asked about wear and that is possible but I am pretty sure its not the case. The second set of keys I got with the 110 are brand new and never used. They work just as well as the used gnition key. Anyways glad you got it sorted. You aught to combine the remote with the key best 20 minute mod you can do.
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic16546-15.html 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Post #541565 19th Jun 2016 6:26pm
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MC84



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Chawton White
I may well do! Thanks for the tip.
Post #542623 23rd Jun 2016 4:21am
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