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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554  |
supermarket grade i would say no, have had problems with it in the past ( fuel being mix in there tank, petrol and diesels, water in there too and so on
a good brand (Shell, BP, etc), or c) fuel system are not cheep to repair |
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14th Apr 2016 9:25am |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1197  
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cheapest you can get!
Supermarket fuel is fine. Myself and colleagues travel 1000s of miles every year on Asda/Tesco fuel..no problem. All fuel has to meet same basic UK standards and criteria. This topic always opens up a huge debate!!! 
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14th Apr 2016 9:58am |
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| Paddie42 Member Since: 24 Apr 2014 Location: Hamphire Posts: 230 
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For me it depends on how often I'm going to be using it. I was using a tank of fuel a week, so used the cheapest with an additive. Now it's not being used daily and I know the fuel will be in the tank for a while I filled up with the normal BP, but again using an additive.
I drive a TD5, but the principle is still the same. |
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14th Apr 2016 10:04am |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 856  
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“… always opens up a huge debate”
Which can be summed up as: “My way is the best/only way”. Land Rover have spent squillions in research to ensure their trucks can operate all over the world using whatever fuel is locally available. And without additives, two stroke oil or whatever. But still clowns ask: “When I take my baby to France will it blow up if I use diesel bought from a supermarket?” BUT, like the OP I have proved to my own satisfaction that I get slightly better consumption - both diesel and petrol - using Premium grade fuel, even in the Defender. Whether or not it justifies the extra expense I'm not sure, but I put Premium in about one in four fills. Otherwise, I get fuel wherever and whenever I need it avoiding, of course, motorway rip-offs. Peter |
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14th Apr 2016 11:29am |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328 
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Ok my tuppence worth I run a fleet of over 1600 cars / vans so I buy a fair amount of fuel in fact £XXm per year.
Our historic experience detailed the only fuel related issues we had save for mis-fuels were when our vehicles were fuelled with supermarket grade fuel so a coincidence who knows however the concern was enough to force a change. We now only use BP so we have no fuel related problems apart from our colour blind staff who mis-fuel at the pumps. Yes totally agree Motor manufactures spend Billions on fuel research to ensure the unit can run successfully on the lowest grade fuel available however they don’t account for poor tank management. This is our findings as always the choice is yours |
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14th Apr 2016 11:46am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
spent squillions in research
if you can get to work then frig it i need no more (victor/wishy)Last edited by dorsetsmith on 20th Apr 2016 2:39pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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14th Apr 2016 11:46am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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14th Apr 2016 1:12pm |
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| Doubledoom Member Since: 27 Dec 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 42 
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The Morrisons near us has had several fueling problems over the years with one being severe enough for it to have to pay for repairs to many vehicles. Even before that event, I always felt Morrisons fuel left the car feeling lethargic.
All the brands are fine and ASDA and Tesco seem fine. Every four fill ups I put in the better quality diesel. It makes no noticeable difference to mileage but it does make the engine feel a bit more responsive and quieter (mainly at start up when cold) I always use busy garages. That way the fuel is likely to be fresher as I understand that can be an issue. At the end of the day, the car will run on poor or good quality fuel. However, a periodic tank of the top stuff can keep it cleaner. Or use additives instead if you think that will work out cheaper. |
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14th Apr 2016 2:45pm |
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| Joe the Plumber Member Since: 18 Dec 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 907 
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I use Tesco ordinary diesel (only because Aldi don't sell it yet...!) in my 2014 110 van, but add Miller's 'something or other' additive to it.
I've had no problems thus far (12000 miles from new), and have no idea if the Miller's makes any difference, but it gives me a bit of peace of mind. For what it's worth, I did a 180 mile round trip in the van (empty, but with a passenger, and my roof bars still in place) a few weeks ago and got exactly 27.5mpg, measured by filling up before and after the journey. |
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14th Apr 2016 8:08pm |
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| mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109 
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As Ken says I wouldn't touch supermarket fuel all the mechanics I know say the same as Ken
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14th Apr 2016 10:40pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Here we go again, this age old topic results in lengthy repetitive threads with as many yea as nay sayers.
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic18718.html http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic11415.html http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic9387.html You can find my opinion in one of the above threads too, but let's say that we here are in the fortunate position to only have B0 diesel in this country. Not any of that r@peseed biocr@p mixed in.
I frankly even think that bottled r@peseed oil is one of the worst tasting and smelly oils for food use, even when it has been refined and deodorized to death by two well known producers in Erith and Liverpool, just to use UK as example. 
Bottom line, depending on the use, sunoil, groundnut oil, grapeseed oil and premium olive oil for the family, and B-zero BP Ultimate for the SVX.
As to the suggested Jet Fuel, that's an interesting one, I remember that many years ago at one of the airports in The Netherlands (Eindhoven??) there was a fraud where untaxed jet fuel was stolen and used in diesel cars. Not sure if that is the right solution though, probably worse than biodiesel.  You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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15th Apr 2016 2:24am |
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| Mark V Member Since: 13 Apr 2016 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 4 
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Thanks everyone. I think I'll play safe and avoid the supermarkets. Cheers.
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15th Apr 2016 8:18am |
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| Justtellme Member Since: 23 Nov 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 305  
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Lol...at my old maritime helicopter squadron, we ran 50 year old Sea King helicopters that routinely had fuel bladder leaks. To fix the tanks we had to drain the tanks first into holding tanks, but defueled JP5/8 could not be returned to the fuel farm or fuel trucks. We would have to dispose of 2000-3000 litres of jet fuel as hazmat at multiple cost of the original fuel, so I didn't mind the troops with deisel VWs topping up before going home.......... |
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15th Apr 2016 6:58pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3371 
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I presume the Supermarkets - Tesco, Sainsbuty's, Asda and Morrisons have their own refineries where they make the fuel which is transported to their filling stations whereas the BP's, Esso and Shell's have their own refineries and would never sell their fuel to the supermarkets? Or perhaps the fuel in all filling stations locally comes from the geographically nearest fuel distribution depot? Our local Waitrose is branded Shell. Now there's a dilemma. I would assume the best fuel to use (especially for petrol) is the filling station which sells the most so it is always fresh. I need to use additives in my lawnmower as the petrol will go off (and that's quite quickly) and it won't start. Any excuse to get the Defender out and go for a ride.
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15th Apr 2016 11:35pm |
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