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| discoch1 Member Since: 06 Dec 2009 Location: 3722 Scharnachtal Posts: 38   
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Hi Jon
I know the 902 Route Nap. I drive it once a year in summer as a conecting route for the Alps tour that I do. In general if your tyres have good profile AT's will do and then it's down to driver tech. This weekend, I will also be going up to the mountains to take a bunch of kid skiing as I do all winter. Another tip is to drop the tyre pressure a bit when you know your going to be on the ice and snow. This helps a lot. Anyway I wish you well with the chains and hope you dont need them. Rich |
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14th Dec 2010 4:16pm |
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| 67_6Cyl Member Since: 10 Feb 2010 Location: France Posts: 97 
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Know the trick,
SWMBO always drops her tyre pressure by 0.2 or 0.3 bar when it gets snowy, and I guess I have just started copying her (plus the BF goodrich ATs seem to grip better in the wet at a slightly lower pressure). Best J |
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14th Dec 2010 4:20pm |
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| 67_6Cyl Member Since: 10 Feb 2010 Location: France Posts: 97
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Unfortunately I can't add a
option to the already created poll 
J |
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14th Dec 2010 4:23pm |
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| discoch1 Member Since: 06 Dec 2009 Location: 3722 Scharnachtal Posts: 38
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Tyre pressure:
I banned my wife from driving her car up to our house in the winter as I spent so much time trying to get the tyre pressure right for her car to drive to our house. Even chains didn't work. So her car stays down the village in winter, that why I have so much experience in snow and ice. Every day, twice a day. |
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14th Dec 2010 4:25pm |
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| 67_6Cyl Member Since: 10 Feb 2010 Location: France Posts: 97
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In France, they regularly have an "aire de Chaînage" at the bottom of known particularly susceptible roads. Unfortunately, the Gendarmes have started being a bit more strict recently and not letting people get past the aire without chains. This happened to the outlaws last week with their 130 (and local 38 plates) that the gendarmes wouldn't let them go up the N75 to the "col de la croix haute" (to where they live!) without chains (hence my initial worry). I'm more than confident in the landrovers ability to deal with such conditions (just not in the Gendarmes ability to be sensible) Best J |
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14th Dec 2010 4:34pm |
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| discoch1 Member Since: 06 Dec 2009 Location: 3722 Scharnachtal Posts: 38
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One of the problems Here in CH, is that there could be a call goes out over the radio that you have to put your Winter Ausrustungen on, if you want to go some where. That means you have to have chains and winter tyres.
There are some roads in the Bernese Oberland that are obligatory chain fitting or else. Because of the nature of the roads that I am driving on I cant even put the diff lock in as the next corner is to close. As I said "Chains" if you need them to get going or for down hill stopping. It sounds like you wont be needing them anyway from the roads that you have discribed. |
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14th Dec 2010 4:44pm |
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| 67_6Cyl Member Since: 10 Feb 2010 Location: France Posts: 97
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I think we agree Rich, I am taking the chains 'cos the Gendarmes have started getting a bit uppety, not for any other reason. The reason for the thread was to have an idea what to do if I only had one set. Best, and good snow..... Jon |
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14th Dec 2010 4:51pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707  
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I can confirm this happens in Courchevel the Gendarmes set a road block and were checking that 2wd cars had chains. they were turning cars back that didn't have chains. Bizarrely they waved us on in a D3 along with the 110 Defender that came with us. Now both cars had mud tyres on that were not rated as winter tyres 
It was interesting when we left the resort it dumped big time, this was when I realised that Goodyear MTR's ain't that good in these conditions.  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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14th Dec 2010 4:52pm |
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| discoch1 Member Since: 06 Dec 2009 Location: 3722 Scharnachtal Posts: 38
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Put them on the back. Add some ballast and take it steady.
Maybe we might meet up some where in summer on route and have a laugh about last winter. He! He! |
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14th Dec 2010 4:54pm |
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| 67_6Cyl Member Since: 10 Feb 2010 Location: France Posts: 97
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Ouf, I was starting to think that I had been dreaming the whole thing..... nice for somebody to confirm it, and the Gendarmes let you through with the LR which is good, and shows they are using some discression. Rich - plenty of nice places in the alps for a (summer) beer! A+ as they say in France Jon |
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14th Dec 2010 5:09pm |
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| discoch1 Member Since: 06 Dec 2009 Location: 3722 Scharnachtal Posts: 38
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Funny thing is! I got stopped over here in CH by the police last year, because they didn't know what it was that I was driving. Mind you I also got a parking ticket because the Securitas man had never seen one like my Landy before.
But now I'm diversifying. OOOPs! |
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14th Dec 2010 5:56pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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A good 4x4 accessory store nr the alps that I know of ...
Boege: http://www.pro4x4-74.com/ there's also a good store in Geneva near AutoBrit LR garage ... have a great weekend's skiing |
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14th Dec 2010 6:24pm |
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| Zinke Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 670 
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I have 2 sets of chains and have never needed them on the road no matter how bad it has been, even towing stuck lorrys.
I got 2 sets as when i do need them im off road or towing something (stuck vehicle or trailer) and wanted to be in control as much as possible. 2 sets of chains may cost you quite a lot and you may never need them but its cheaper than your insurance excess plus having to get home from far away. Also my chains are rated for off road use with could come in handy if you was ever stuck! Pete. |
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14th Dec 2010 8:03pm |
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| SteveS Member Since: 05 Oct 2010 Location: Devon & Berkshire Posts: 388  
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For what it is worth I'd much rather have chains on the front - plenty of weight over them, and on the steering wheels too if for some strange reason you had the truck slide about then you could at least steer into the skid. Also with chains on the steering wheels you get much more feel for what's going on. Also front wheels are the first to encounter the deep stuff and therefore need the extra bite to continually ride up the deep stuff - the rears follow behind in trodden snow generally. If you're REALLY worried about spinning 180 on polished stuff you can always reverse down.
Having said all that rare that you'll need them with a decent set of MTs or Snow tyres |
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14th Dec 2010 9:21pm |
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