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grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
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I'd definitely be up for removing the dpf, cat and egr but the dpf is so close to the bulkhead that it would be a nightmare to remove and then replace for every mot. Also I'd have to wait 3 years to do it

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30th Jun 2015 9:44am

Cafe Latte

Member Since: 27 May 2015
Location: Ravenshoe
Posts: 10

No MOT here in Queensland Aus

Chris

30th Jun 2015 10:10am

Stickleback

Member Since: 20 Jun 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 93

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

Having now worked it out, I get on average 25.5 to the gallon.

Interestingly towing a trailer (about 1,000kg) seems to make no difference to fuel consumption. Probably drive more smoothly and less quick towing so maybe I could improve MPG if I adopted a towing style of driving even when solo.

But where's the fun in that

Ps 2014 2.2 with 9,000 on the clock

30th Jun 2015 1:49pm

def_fid

Member Since: 07 Mar 2011
Location: worcestershire
Posts: 17

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Stornoway Grey

2.2tdci 2012; BAS Remap 20 inch Wheels, Coopers

My Old 300 tdi would only get above 30 mpg if I kept the speed down to 55mph, the speedo read 62-3mph. More than 10% fast. The odometer was also likely to be similarly more than 10% over-reading. If I drove at 75-80 mph, it dropped to 22mpg. My current 2.2 has a totally accurate speedo. I can cruise at 80-85 and I get 25mpg. I haven't tried trundling along at 55, too much fun

30th Jun 2015 6:35pm

Phil VM2.5

Member Since: 28 Mar 2012
Location: Limelette
Posts: 196

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

2.2 2012

Hi,
driving as an old man, at 2000 t/min approx 90 - 95 km/h , sometimes a trailler ...
- first year average 29 mpg - 9.71 L/100km) (26000km)
- year 2 : average 31.8 mpg - 8.88 L/100km (25000km)
- year 3 : average 31.8 mpg - 8.88 L/100km (25000km)

last hollydays in Auvergne june 2015 : 33.7
hollydays again Auvergne : july 2015 : 35.1

try 35 mpg, (8 L/100 km ) but not easy ...
Regards
Phil current : defender 110 sw 2.2 puma 2012 and 230.000km today and
again my Range Rover VM2.5 engine from 1992 and 528.000km today.

One ten 1988 to 1992
1987 BMW GS80
One Ten from 1984 to 1987
One Ten from 1983 to 1984
Serie 3 109 from 1980 to 1983
from 1974 Jeep CJ3B and CJ6

Last edited by Phil VM2.5 on 30th Jul 2015 6:52am. Edited 3 times in total

1st Jul 2015 8:54am

PAT303

Member Since: 25 Feb 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 123

1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Alpine White

My 2.4 was shocking from new,I couldn't get under 14ltres per 100,now with over 100,000k's on the clock it gets 10 per 100.Give it time to settle in and don't baby it,drive the sucker. Pat

1st Jul 2015 11:38am

The Gairloch 1

Member Since: 05 Jun 2014
Location: Gairloch
Posts: 6

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 CSW Aintree Green

Re supercat

"Always seem to get better figures when touring in the summer in higher temps, even after discounting the type of driving done"

There is some science behind better fuel economy in the summer. As a lorry driver 30 years ago I found I got better mpg by to filling up in the morning as cold fuel from the underground tank expanded with heat. Before anyone shouts this down I have proved it to be true many times and have witnessed other drivers filling their tanks to the brim in the evening, parking up for the night, and seeing a puddle of diesel under the lorry as the fuel expands. I am surprised no one has designed a fuel heater to make use of this phenomenon.

3rd Jul 2015 9:57am

WhiskyJackR

Member Since: 25 Nov 2014
Location: Lizard
Posts: 159

I have a late 2013 2.2

It consistently averages around 24 mpg

6th Jul 2015 10:01pm

Yannis

Member Since: 02 Feb 2015
Location: Oxfordshire / Milan
Posts: 402

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Corris Grey

Here are my results from new;

Click image to enlarge

As you can see there is a noticeable change on the graph. My commute is now 11miles instead of 4....

8th Jul 2015 3:06pm

Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3755

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green

Re: 2.2tdci 2012; BAS Remap 20 inch Wheels, Coopers

def_fid wrote:
My Old 300 tdi would only get above 30 mpg if I kept the speed down to 55mph, the speedo read 62-3mph. More than 10% fast. The odometer was also likely to be similarly more than 10% over-reading. If I drove at 75-80 mph, it dropped to 22mpg. My current 2.2 has a totally accurate speedo. I can cruise at 80-85 and I get 25mpg. I haven't tried trundling along at 55, too much fun

"Cruise at 80-85 mph"?
Pickles.

8th Jul 2015 11:24pm

Neil1967

Member Since: 09 Jul 2015
Location: Limburg
Posts: 3

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

Very early days yet, but my new 110 XS does 25-26 MPG. The previous 2001 110 TD5 did 26-28MPG, and the 1983 110 V8 before that did 13 MPG on LPG, so price wise all much of a muchness.

Neil

9th Jul 2015 4:19pm

def_fid

Member Since: 07 Mar 2011
Location: worcestershire
Posts: 17

Re: 2.2tdci 2012; BAS Remap 20 inch Wheels, Coopers

Pickles wrote:
def_fid wrote:
My Old 300 tdi would only get above 30 mpg if I kept the speed down to 55mph, the speedo read 62-3mph. More than 10% fast. The odometer was also likely to be similarly more than 10% over-reading. If I drove at 75-80 mph, it dropped to 22mpg. My current 2.2 has a totally accurate speedo. I can cruise at 80-85 and I get 25mpg. I haven't tried trundling along at 55, too much fun

"Cruise at 80-85 mph"?
Pickles.

Only in France😉

18th Jul 2015 4:22pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

Re: Re supercat

The Gairloch 1 wrote:
"Always seem to get better figures when touring in the summer in higher temps, even after discounting the type of driving done"

There is some science behind better fuel economy in the summer. As a lorry driver 30 years ago I found I got better mpg by to filling up in the morning as cold fuel from the underground tank expanded with heat. Before anyone shouts this down I have proved it to be true many times and have witnessed other drivers filling their tanks to the brim in the evening, parking up for the night, and seeing a puddle of diesel under the lorry as the fuel expands. I am surprised no one has designed a fuel heater to make use of this phenomenon.

I would say it would take a lot longer then between morning and evening to warm fuel up in a underground tank

yes agree with fuel expanding over night from a underground tank as the small amount in vehicle tank will warm up without the insulation of the ground around it

technically you should get less power from warm fuel , so mpg should suffer with warm fuel , one reason why dragsters will run ice packed fuel coolers to get denser fuel to give more power per certain amount of fuel

but I would say the diffirence would be so small you would be hard pushed to notice it on road use

18th Jul 2015 4:38pm

lohr500

Member Since: 14 Sep 2014
Location: Skipton
Posts: 1285

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Neil1967 wrote:
Very early days yet, but my new 110 XS does 25-26 MPG. The previous 2001 110 TD5 did 26-28MPG, and the 1983 110 V8 before that did 13 MPG on LPG, so price wise all much of a muchness.

Neil

Ah yes but I bet the sound from the V8 was the best

We had a Disco 1 V8 with an LPG conversion and it made me smile every time I drove it.
That was when I wasn't fixing the endless stream of electrical problems that plagued it on a regular basis.

18th Jul 2015 5:42pm

SergeantJav

Member Since: 23 Jul 2015
Location: London
Posts: 61

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey

First run down through France and low 20s but then up around 80 on a motorway won't help

26th Jul 2015 9:36pm

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