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Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5765

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

Ford Clutch

Hello all,

Given that the general consensus is that the OEM AP clutch for the 2.2 Puma is as good as it gets, before I buy one, is it the same as the Ford Transit clutch as below, or a more heavy duty part?

http://www.catherinestreetmotors.co.uk/clu...63-bb.html

At least £100+VAT difference. That's some nice theft proof bonnet hinges to you and me

Any advice appreciated. Happy to pay for the correct item, always, but not if the same item (under a different brand) is a third of the price...

Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

19th May 2015 9:08pm

theorangebandit

Member Since: 03 Jun 2013
Location: Stowmarket
Posts: 862

All my research has led me to believe that the ford, single mass flywheel clutch kit and concentric slave are identical to what we have fitted. However I haven't yet confirmed this enough to advise or even buy one my self. Its not unlikely that the ford happily runs one of the early puma clutches and so in affect you may end up fitting another pants clutch rather than the upgraded version. Hopefuly someone can put us straight as mines juddering a fair bit now

20th May 2015 5:19am

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5765

Thanks Bandit. Agreed, if anyone would know it would be mighty useful for all 2.2 drivers out there. I might take a punt and contact Ford direct. Perhaps also a Ford fanzine. Will let you know what I hear back.

Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

20th May 2015 8:48am

theorangebandit

Member Since: 03 Jun 2013
Location: Stowmarket
Posts: 862

I used a ford vac pump on a friends defender purely as fitted were the only people stocking it for collection that same day and he needed the car. And although they are the same product the guy on the phone gave me a spiel about not having a the new parts warranty and so on as it isn't a ford vehicle

20th May 2015 11:58am

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6265

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Talking of clutches.....

Anyone know what 'upgraded' clutch is being fitted on the bowler and AB models with increased power?

I presume it's upgraded.?

19th Jun 2015 5:48pm

theorangebandit

Member Since: 03 Jun 2013
Location: Stowmarket
Posts: 862

Ask one of the tuners bud the product is still new and I cant remember who, but someone is nagging the supplier to learn what's different.

19th Jun 2015 9:19pm

bell-auto-services

Member Since: 08 Jul 2007
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 2232

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey

150bhp Ford Ranger clutch in my 2015 Ranger is different part number to my 2015 Defender so Id suspect LR are using that for the AB cars.

I Have both parts on order and should be able to confirm soon, but in the mean time I know the gearboxes fit eachother so I strongly suspect this will be the case.

Pete

21st Jun 2015 12:06am

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

you might find the ranger will have a dmf as well

21st Jun 2015 7:43am

tatra805

Member Since: 16 Aug 2011
Location: Dolany
Posts: 436

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey

On Blacklandy someone fitted a clutch of a transit 4x4

link here, but you might have to register to see it

http://www.blacklandy.eu/blboard/forum/sho...d+kupplung

Defender:

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Transit4x4:

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3000 950 727-SACHS

Only comment after installation; a bit heavier and "clonk" sound disappeared. But no long-term experience so far.

fyi

21st Jun 2015 2:47pm

Jupe-1

Member Since: 16 Apr 2015
Location: Finland
Posts: 4

It would be interesting to find out, if that clutch assembly really was used. I tried but there was not enough space.. that Sachs HD assembly must be thicker than original used in Defender.

Do not have pictures to compare, but it took hours to try...

24th Jun 2015 3:32pm

digger2

Member Since: 28 Jul 2012
Location: west yorkshire
Posts: 25

on a similar subject the clutch release bearing is actualy a ford transit part in a landrover box part no 1749121 from your ford dealer

26th Jun 2015 8:34pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

Jupe-1 wrote:
It would be interesting to find out, if that clutch assembly really was used. I tried but there was not enough space.. that Sachs HD assembly must be thicker than original used in Defender.

Do not have pictures to compare, but it took hours to try...

The ford clutch would be for a dmf as fitted to transit , even for the solid conversion for the transit you need the clutch for a solid flywheel as a dmf clutch kit will not fit

26th Jun 2015 9:34pm

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