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russgreenman

Member Since: 05 Jun 2015
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Zermatt Silver

Defender 110 rear knocking

Good afternoon,

I have recently joined this forum upon purchase of a 2010 Defender 110 crew cab county spec. I love the vehicle, and have grown very fond of it in my short time of ownership and has made a wonderful addition to my landrover driveway. However, I am experiencing some knocking from the rear over bumps in the road etc which is proving frustrating, and has caused me some concern.

I have jacked the rear wheels up individually, there is absolutely no play in the wheel bearings on either side. I have also done my best to check for play in the suspension bushes, of which I can deem to be in good form with no movement either. When the vehicle is on the ground, if one grabs the rear tub and shakes the vehicle side to side, there is a distinctive 'knocking' coming from somewhere - felt though the hands more than audible. Is this just the drive train in the rear taking up upon the slight inevitable forward/backward movement? Or am I not checking something I ought?

If anyone would be kind enough to share their thoughts upon my predicament, I would be most grateful.

Many thanks,

Russell

5th Jun 2015 5:17pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

possible ball joint on top of rear axle

5th Jun 2015 5:19pm

grizz

Member Since: 31 Aug 2014
Location: cheshire
Posts: 208

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey

Could be anti roll bar links/bushes . my puma has 4k and the rear axle ball joint is knocking

5th Jun 2015 6:30pm

bob neville

Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Marbella
Posts: 3247

Had a similar issue on my TD5. The rear shock bushes had gone, only been fitted a year

Not expensive and easy to change.

As Grizz said, could also be the roll bar bushes but I think I would start with the shock bushes and go from there.

Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !!
2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold
2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold
2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member
2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days !

5th Jun 2015 7:26pm

Roy5695

Member Since: 15 Feb 2014
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 1123

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Indus Silver

I had a similar problem I think and it was where the body mounts to the chassis. These bolts were loose. Bolts tightened, noise gone.

5th Jun 2015 7:37pm

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

I had a bump-related knocking and it was the rear lower shock bushes. As Bob says, not expensive and easy to change so might be worth starting there. 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green

5th Jun 2015 7:44pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19705

Put your hand on the shock top mount collars. (Top mount bolt area)
See if you can feel anything there when you rock the body too.
Check both sides to see if there is a difference.
If there is you've pin pointed your problem shocker.
If neither of those then it could be the anti roll bar bushes as mentioned above.
If you do identify a shock causing issues report back and we can go from there.

5th Jun 2015 8:17pm

russgreenman

Member Since: 05 Jun 2015
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13

Dear all,

Thankyou for your kind replies. Upon further investigation on advice received here, there is not movement in either the upper or lower shock mount bushes. The anti roll bar bushes are also solid, I have been on my back under the vehicle shaking it violently and there is no movement in any of the bushes. However, I shook the vehicle whilst holding the rear of the a frame, and can discern some movement in the ball joint. Indeed, when grabbing the a frame, I can make the knocking noise by rocking the a frame up and down. The other ends of the a frame seem to be solid. Would I be correct to assume this is the cause and would best describe my symptoms?

With regard to replacement, can one purchase a unit with the bearing in? I presume a press would be involved, and whilst I have an array of workshop items to keep my farming machinery operational, I do not own a press!

Thankyou once again for your prompt replies.

Russell

5th Jun 2015 8:31pm

bob neville

Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Marbella
Posts: 3247

If I was going to replace one I would be using one of these

http://www.gwynlewis4x4.co.uk/product/a-fr...n-housing/

Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !!
2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold
2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold
2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member
2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days !

5th Jun 2015 8:43pm

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

Having just replaced mine I'd recommend replacing the two bolts that hold the ball joint to the arms too. And +1 for the regreaseable gwyn Lewis one above

Ray
My build thread
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html

5th Jun 2015 11:50pm

russgreenman

Member Since: 05 Jun 2015
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13

Thankyou all for your replies. I have ordered one of the suggested replacements, with new bolts and bushes for the front of the a frame also. Ignorant question, can one fit these parts with the vehicle on the ground? I presume so however would hate to get it wrong?

Many thanks again,
Russell

7th Jun 2015 9:39am

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Morning Russ,

If the link below works as it should you'll have access to the workshop manual, wiring diagrams and loads of useful information.

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=4bc2d89c85c...171%217067

**Edit** Just checked and it does indeed still work. I downloaded all I need, that way if the link goes down you still have it all to hand.

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

7th Jun 2015 9:54am

russgreenman

Member Since: 05 Jun 2015
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13

Good evening chaps.

I am pleased to announce that the replacement of the ball joint on the a frame has proved the fix my defender needed. It drives wonderfully now. Thankyou all for your kind suggestions and help.

Russ

10th Jun 2015 9:47pm

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