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Kevzeboy



Member Since: 19 Jul 2014
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Indus Silver
EGR Blanking?
I was on Fee Bay and cam across an EGR blanking plate to fit a TDCI. It had a small hole on the middle to "stop an emissions light coming on"?

I did my TD5 when I had it and liked the outcome. Is it worth blanking a TDCI or are you just asking for bother?

A chap I know of that works in R and D ant Cummins Diesel says EGR gasses have a corrosive affect on the engine over time!

If I spend the 3.98 and it puts the light on, can I slip it out and return to normal? Or does it ruin the EGR valve?

Any thoughts?

Kevin
Post #374414 26th Nov 2014 10:17pm
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Rickydodah



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I used this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110934139626?_tr...EBIDX%3AIT

A couple of weeks ago and so far, no MIL light and a smoother engine. Idle seems improved too. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

As far as I'm aware it can be removed and the MIL light turned off if there's a problem. I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
Post #374441 26th Nov 2014 11:34pm
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K9F



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Loads of information if you search under EGR Blanking.....

I had a set of blanks as each vehicle can be different. Start with the largest hole and work your way down gradually over time until your MIL light illuminated then revert to the previous blank and leave it. Mine is still fitted after nearly 5 years. I now have an EGR shut remap.


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Post #374443 26th Nov 2014 11:41pm
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Regard



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Do not know if this will be of any help but it seems that the UK/EU Defenders and the "Africa spec" Defenders have different "maps" regarding the EGR.

Where all UK forumites said they get MIL light when blanked solid or unplugged, none of our RSA members have had a MIL light when blanked with a solid plate and neither if it is unplugged at the grey plug.

I've been running mine unplugged (which is effectively same as a "closed shut remap") for 5 months now with out any MIL light.

Our one indie inserts a solid blank plate and none of his customers have ever had a MIL light?



Just FYI......
Post #374497 27th Nov 2014 9:12am
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Kevzeboy



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I got one from EGR Delete on ebay.

No instructions, but it is obviously to fit between the Cooler and the valve, too small for the exhaust cooler side.

2 questions:

What is the easiest way to get the bottom bolt off from the cooler to the EGR valve?

Would it be best blocked up from the exhaust side to stop the cooler filling with crap?

Any thoughts?


Kevin
Post #375400 30th Nov 2014 11:14pm
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Rickydodah



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The blank should go between the cooler and the EGR valve, the bottom bolt is accessible, just, from underneath. 10mm open ended. Thumbs Up I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
Post #375412 1st Dec 2014 12:28am
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Kevzeboy



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Sorted!

Climbed on top of the engine, got the bottom bolt with a the ring end of short 10mm and a bang with a lump of wood to brake the hold.

Plate in and no lights on on my 30 mile trip to work!
Post #377244 8th Dec 2014 1:28pm
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custom90



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You might find it will though after a few stop start cycles, depends on if you've chosen the one that's suitable or not.
In my book EGR = a waste of time, effort, money and it's useless and no good to the engine.and finally it's a pain in the ass for its MIL illuminating tactics and for getting stuck.
Post #377246 8th Dec 2014 1:35pm
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mark_d



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I tested one of these blanks and whilst there is no MIL, the Ultragauge has a pending alarm for the Mass airflow.
I think the performance may be a bit worse and the economy hasn't changed significantly over 1 tank full. http://defender90xs.blogspot.co.uk/
Post #377259 8th Dec 2014 2:57pm
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Kevzeboy



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Light on after 150 miles! Censored !

Will it go off if I take the blank out completely, or, is it a computer off job?

Could I drill the hole abit bigger and put back putting the light off when right?

Big Cry
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K9F



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K9F wrote:
Loads of information if you search under EGR Blanking.....

I had a set of blanks as each vehicle can be different. Start with the largest hole and work your way down gradually over time until your MIL light illuminated then revert to the previous blank and leave it. Mine is still fitted after nearly 5 years. I now have an EGR shut remap.


Laughing

No surprises there then. Read my post above. That's the idea of starting with a blank with a large hole then gradually reducing. Your method is going to be work intensive and take a while for you to find the right size as every vehicle is different.

You have a couple of options....

Take your blank out and after a few driving cycles the MIL light will automatically reset.

Drill a larger hole in your blank and hope the MIL light will extinguish after a few driving cycles. If it doesn't take it out and drill a bigger one.

Ideally you need to start with a blank with a big hole and gradually reduce as stated.

Thumbs Up You are welcome to a loan of the blanks I have but there is still one of the set fitted to mine that even with an EGR shut remap I will not remove in case I revert back to standard. It took weeks to find the ideal size blank as changes in air temperature/pressure will affect it too.

Drop me a 'pm' and I'll shove 'em in a jiffy bag and send them. I do want them back please as I have sent them to other forum members in the past. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!


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Post #379110 15th Dec 2014 9:46am
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Caterham



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personally I'd suggest fitting between exhaust manifold and cooler is the easier place to fit - that's where fitted mine.
Post #379111 15th Dec 2014 9:59am
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K9F



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Pinched from another very old thread.

For clarity it should be fitted here:

19 hole matrix transfer pipe

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Restricted blanking plate with a 19mmŲ hole.

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 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #379112 15th Dec 2014 10:06am
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Kevzeboy



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I removed the blanking plate yesterday and have done 50 miles. (less power than when blanked). will the engine management light go off by its self over time or will it need to go on a computer to be reset? (if it is may blanking that caused it)

Would a hawk eye be able to remove fault codes?
Post #380831 21st Dec 2014 10:12pm
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Soupy



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It should clear itself after 10 cycles.

Hawkeye will clear the code.
Post #380989 22nd Dec 2014 4:04pm
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