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Fujixs90



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Fuji White
I had a chat with someone who works in product development, and he explained that other JLR employees are currently doing a recce for a round the world trip of the new defender to prove it's worth when launched. Also he mentioned the front wings are quite similar shape to the real defender, but are made of a material which if damaged and distorted, returns to its original shape if boiling water is poured over them.
Post #368074 29th Oct 2014 7:48pm
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Marky Boy



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I think you May Change you mind if you were to be unfortunate enough to be hit by a Defender instead of a slightly softer more rounded Euro 5 star integrated bouncy off mechanism.
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Post #368076 29th Oct 2014 7:51pm
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SS90



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Lol maybe so, but if that was the real reason they'd ban lorry's and Buses Laughing
Post #368078 29th Oct 2014 7:55pm
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RobKeay



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Apart from it not fitting in a car parking space the d3 I had was the most practical LandRover ive ever owned.
Post #368084 29th Oct 2014 8:14pm
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AndrewS



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Re: A bit more info...
SS90 wrote:
AndrewS wrote:
SS90 wrote:
I'd bet my bottom dollar that this will have more electronics than ever before, more to go wrong when you're out in the desert.


Ah the old more to go wrong argument Rolling Eyes , have you proof that electronics go wrong more in the desert than they do elsewhere?


What proof do you need, when electronics go wrong they are generally more of a problem to fix I wouldn't want to be out in a desert if they were to go wrong would you?


You have not proved that electronics go wrong more in the desert and why are you saying that its more of a problem to fix? can you please justify what you are saying.

There are lots of things that are a problem to fix in the desert, however I have never suffered from electronic issues.

A smashed front diff is a problem in the desert.

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A shattered drive shaft is a problem in the desert.

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A bent propshaft is a problem in the desert

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A knackered vacuum pump is a problem in the desert

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Post #368098 29th Oct 2014 8:53pm
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RobKeay



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People that use all types of Landrover to distruction are too busy to moan about the future.
Post #368105 29th Oct 2014 9:19pm
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SS90



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What happens if you get an ECU fault in the middle of nowhere?

I just think the more you rely on something like electrics the more potential there is for something to go wrong, which could well be difficult to fix. The army would have never been so keen to keep hold of the 300tdi if it was difficult to repair hence they were never keen on the the TD5. Didn't the earlier td5's suffer from oil running down the injector wiring loom causing ECU problems? Illustrates my point exactly, never had that problem with a Tdi engine. The simpler something is to repair and maintain the better IMO, you need computers to sort out most vehicles nowadays, a spanner and it's nearly job done with a TDI. Thumbs Up
Post #368112 29th Oct 2014 9:30pm
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shaggydog



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Whilst I agree that a Tdi is much much simper and in some cases better, these is a snowballs chance in hell of Landrover making any new vehicle a basic Tdi as it would never pass on emissions or just simply power demands. Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

Self confessed mileage hunter Very Happy
Post #368117 29th Oct 2014 9:41pm
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RobKeay



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
I like the military references guess the challenger 2 tank or those crazy looking troop carriers have no electronics. Just two tdi engines strapped together.
Post #368121 29th Oct 2014 9:54pm
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Tiger



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Tdi can smash the engine casing

You ain't gonna fix that in a dessert Rolling with laughter

I quite like Andrew's point though, if electronics stress you that much, best learn to ride a Camel, learn semaphore, read a map and navigate by the sun Thumbs Up
Post #368122 29th Oct 2014 9:56pm
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SS90



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Rolling with laughter electronics don't stress me just the basics have always been the attraction to the Defender for me.
Post #368134 29th Oct 2014 10:38pm
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Pickles



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That is a dreadful looking "vehicle", & I would never buy anything that looks like it.....it's not worthy of the Defender name, IMHO.
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Post #368139 29th Oct 2014 10:56pm
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Lou Sparts



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I'm not so worried about the looks but I am concerned about the underpinnings ! It needs to be rugged with a capital R. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
Post #368142 29th Oct 2014 11:03pm
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Interested to read that it might be based on the aluminum platform found in the Range Rover and Range Rover Sport. If true then there's loads of scope of changing things from the other models and making your own bespoke vehicle. TDV8 perhaps?

What this means for suspension is the next question - independent or keep a live axle?

Reports also suggest talk of powertrains are likely to include Land Rover’s Ingenium four-cylinder engines as well as its V6 units, and the transmissions will likely be eight- and nine-speed automatics. That's another plus for me.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1067589...016-report
Post #368257 30th Oct 2014 1:07pm
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dolomite



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Will there be any 3-door (90) variant ?
Post #368259 30th Oct 2014 1:12pm
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