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Grockle



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Post #35081 26th Jun 2010 9:23am
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K9F



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adyb wrote:
hopefully thats it for a few years with possible minor touch ups on scuffs give them a try !


I paid a bit more but I find it is money well spent for 'the peace of mind too! Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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Froogle-Yorkshireman



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Hello,

I am getting a new 110 and I am trying to decide if the first thing I do is point it towards a waxoyl specialist?!?

I am a little worried about the following CONS:

1..overspray onto the new paint work, glass and alloys
2..the smell after treatment
3..undoing newly built trim and then it being put back
4..collecting debris underneath in the gunge
5..dripping wax for weeks later
6..is my LR warranty impacted

Does the group have any comments - Are my worries of real concern??

Is there any other downside to waxoyl I should be aware of?

The waxoyl makes sense but I really don't want to spoil the experience of getting my new 110.
Post #35948 10th Jul 2010 11:08am
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K9F



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Welcom F Y,

In answer to your queries....

1. Overspray is easily removed and if carried out by a reputable applier most will be removed on the day.

2. Smell is still apparent on mine a month later, but I like it and it will afford me years of protection.. Buy an airfreshener.

3. No trim is undone during the process if the applier has the appropriate lances to gain access.

4. 100 hours after application it bakes rock hard so nothing should adhere.

5. Only the clearwax from the doors seep! No dripping and no more after four weeks despite the hot weather we're experiencing!

6. Warranty is not impacted, indeed my dealer recommended I have it done! Just had second service and they commented on what an excellent job!

In my opinion I was too eager to spend my dosh on visibly blinging my vehicle when I should have had the waxoyling done earlier. Never mind it's done now! Do it you'll not regret it! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #35949 10th Jul 2010 11:41am
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pom



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Reading up it seems this is definately a top idea, as im planning on keeping my utility for a good while this will be the first job.

Is there anywhere in the Midlands that do a decent job of it ?

Pom
Post #35950 10th Jul 2010 11:50am
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K9F



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Rustmaster now at Knutsford...

http://www.rustmaster.co.uk/index_45607.htm If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #35954 10th Jul 2010 12:37pm
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Froogle-Yorkshireman



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Thanks for the info K9F.

I am curious to know what the smell is like?? Is it strong? What would you compare it to?
Post #35955 10th Jul 2010 12:38pm
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K9F



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Waxoyl would be the natural comparison Laughing It's not a pungent smell a cross between candle or bees wax and thinners. Bearable...probably wouldn't even notice it if the weather was colder, naturally getting weaker by the week. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #35956 10th Jul 2010 12:42pm
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Froogle-Yorkshireman



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Right.... Off to Halfords for a sniff!!
Post #35957 10th Jul 2010 1:05pm
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pom



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i notice they do inside the wheel arches. Does this mean they cant be pressure washed ?

Pom
Post #35959 10th Jul 2010 2:18pm
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niglyn



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Yep it does stink & does ruin the new car smell for a while. It does eventually go.

There is quite a bit of over-spray, which comes off fine with white spirit and any final splodges come off when washing with normal car shampoo.

Because the clear cavity wax mists, it does get everywhere and settes quite well on the horizontal surfaces, like the roof. It easily comes off whilst washing with car shampoo.

Wheels are a bit of a pig, they do get gunged. When I was there, a chap with wire wheels took them off before they started work. You could take four bin bags & a roll of tape to cover the wheels.

I polished mine with two applications of autoglym before the gunging, I'm sure this helps cleaning afterwards.

There is a bit of seep from the gunge, better that than having areas missed. It stops dripping after a day or two.

So the inconvieniences are having to wash & polish the car before going and again afterwards, spend a little time removing any overspray that Rustmaster missed, horrible smell for a while. (I had to drive back with the winows open) and loss of the new car smell for a while.

The question of power washing the wheel arches is a good one. If I lived local to Rustmaster then I would probably pop back after a few years to get the rear arches re-done, as it is a bit of a journey for me I use a bucket of water and soft brush to carefully do mine.

The benefits are that the LR will last a heck of a lot longer and have a higher resale value. My dealer paid half towards getting mine done as I complained about the amopunt of rust on the new chassis. LRs official response was "they all rust from new sir" !!! so I can't see my dealer now saying that it voids the warranty.

My old LR started to go at the door bottoms after 10 years & the rear cross member was also rusting from the inside out, so on buying my new LR I had no hesitiation in getting it done from new. This also saves the jet washing part. I really don't like the idea of a jet wash & then the underseal applied immediatly afterwards.

The professional cavity wax ia a million times better than the stuff sold in Halfords. It really does get everywhere. Applying the black underseal is a really messy job, once you see the state of the guy once he has finished you will be very happy he did it & not you.
Post #35966 10th Jul 2010 6:32pm
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Froogle-Yorkshireman



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Thanks Niglyn,

When did you get yours done?

Has the smell now gone??

Taking the wheels off sounds a good plan...
Post #35968 10th Jul 2010 7:32pm
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K9F



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Didn't take my wheels off! Then again they were so precise and accurate with the application I hardly witnessed any overspray at all!
Look on last page of this thread I even posted photographs...

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic1752-45.html If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #35973 10th Jul 2010 7:59pm
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Froogle-Yorkshireman



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Wow - great pics - very precise!

What's the score with jet washing the wheel arches as raised earlier on here? Do you have to avoid?

Thanks for all the help K9F
Post #35975 10th Jul 2010 9:34pm
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K9F



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They use a high pressure wash to rid cars of old wax prior to new application. As long as the pressure wash is not set too high I would imagine it's ok.
Why not give Mike a ring at Hatfield Rustmaster he is the professional who can undoubtedly put you in the picture as to what is what!

Dog Thumbs Up Dog If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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