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Bogblaster



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Manual Stornoway Grey
FUBAR'd

Well some pillock over loaded my Ifor Willaims tipping trailer by about 4 tonnes and another pillock (that'll be me) decided that with the power of all 4 wheels and a little bit of assistance from my mate Warn on the front bumper it'll be fine!

So after about 10 seconds of the winch pulling the plasma went taut, the clutch cut in - that's the clue that she can't pull no more Embarassed - so I winched some more, then nothing, no noise, just the clicking of the solenoid saying no more. So after we recovered the trailer - using a tractor, off I went to the workshop, this is what I found

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TimmyNZ



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Holy s***!!!! Well done that man! (Sounds like an excuse for a new one!!)

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Maverick



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Shocked Shocked

WTF is, sorry, was that?
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AndrewS



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Shocked Never ever ever keep/hold your finger on the button once the winch slows down Big Cry

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Bogblaster



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Whistle It didnt slow down, it just stopped Rolling with laughter

To be fair there was no warning, the clutch cut in, released some rope, I tried again and it blew. There was no warning, to be honest I have never seen a motor implode like that before, a mate of mine who does the Argyll Winch Challenge and abuses all his kit has never seen anything like it either. No noise, no squeaking, it just stopped.

Maverick, that was a winch motor!
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Post #3320 26th Aug 2008 9:15pm
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RLD



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hi just get a new motor from goodwinch Whistle

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Alex e



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England 2006 Defender 110 Td5 XS DCPU Manual Java Black

Bogblaster wrote:


To be fair there was no warning, the clutch cut in,


wasn't that the warning?b Confused

my 8274 did something a like that when it failed, but i was winching a 30 inch diameter 120ft log at the time Rolling Eyes Embarassed
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mse



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Good effort.

At least you know if it was an inferor winch it wouldnt have moved at all!
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Bogblaster



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In the past I have winched so much that I have had to pour water onto the casing to cool it down, an 8274, not this one, but I would have expected it to overheat and turn off, it is the 9.5 ti. The t is for thermo cut out, it surprised me that it just went bang, surely to go bang it would had to get hot and then the thermo should have cut in.

I reckon I was trying to pull a rolling load of about 8 tonnes, so in effect I was looking for assistance, not a dead lift, anyway new motor installed, tried tested all OK.
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mse



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Bogblaster wrote:
In the past I have winched so much that I have had to pour water onto the casing to cool it down, an 8274, not this one, but I would have expected it to overheat and turn off, it is the 9.5 ti. The t is for thermo cut out, it surprised me that it just went bang, surely to go bang it would had to get hot and then the thermo should have cut in.

I reckon I was trying to pull a rolling load of about 8 tonnes, so in effect I was looking for assistance, not a dead lift, anyway new motor installed, tried tested all OK.


Did the warning light not come on.

Im not so sure that it cuts out on thermo lock - ill read my manual to see what it says.

Still good effort.
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Bogblaster



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Manual Stornoway Grey

At yes, the manual, as to the light coming on, well I have adapted the winch so I can use it off the cable and also from buttons in the cab and on the side of the grille, the wasrning light isn't wired up to the switches Shocked I have to confess I assumed it would cut out and not just warn me, but from wiching to blowing up was about 30 seconds.

You're right it was a good effort!
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IIRC the light just comes on it doesnt cut out.

is 8T the EP? ie your 8T being the rolling load or is that GTW of 8T?
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It just wants oiling.
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