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Charliefox

Member Since: 03 Oct 2013
Location: County Durham
Posts: 56

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Corris Grey

Fitting a Retainagroup Security Marking Kit

Thanks to the forum I'm now in possession of a Retainagroup vehicle security marking kit

I appreciate that some forms of vehicle security shouldn't be discussed on an open forum, for obvious reasons. Security marking is different and clearly only effective as a preventative measure if the potential thief can see the vehicle is plastered in etching and marks etc.

With this in mind, would some forum members who've already fitted the kit mind giving me a few pointers please?

I understand where the glass etching and "self-destruct" labels need to be fitted. I'm less sure regarding the UV stencils on panels.

Have people stencilled externally straight onto a waxed panel? Or have you marked inside wings / bonnets etc? Is the UV fluid invisible once dry?

What about the interior trim in terms of location?

Any help / pointers / tips gratefully received

I should also say that I've trawled through the search function and found plenty of references to the benefits of using the kit but no mention of it being installed - if I've missed a thread a pointer would be helpful, thanks. Chris

12th Nov 2013 5:17pm

DAZ110

Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 2004

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black

I assume you have read this:

http://www.retainagroup.com/uv-marking.html

and this:

http://www.retainagroup.com/window-marking.html

Stick the RETAINAGROUP UV ‘SELF-ETCH’ LABELS on panels/trim where ever you think is best! (I put mine under the bonnet/inside door edges near the lock position/on the bulkhead under the bonnet/ on my seats, as I have recaro seats, and on the dash edge)

.....and don't forget to register the details on the retainagroup website when you have finished.
Hope this helps.

12th Nov 2013 6:46pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

you have a pm

12th Nov 2013 8:03pm

Charliefox

Member Since: 03 Oct 2013
Location: County Durham
Posts: 56

Thanks for the replies so far.

I'm familiar with the kit and it's tech spec from their website. I'm just curious about Defender specific locations for some of the stickers and stencils, particularly interior trim.

I'd rather the truck didn't look like a 2 year old had got hold of a price labeling gun and a box of orange smarties

Chris

12th Nov 2013 8:19pm

jimbob7

Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

Your gonna need to remove any wax/protection on your car before etching,you can buy panel wipes from Halfords for this.
Not used Retaina Group stuff but used plenty of Datatag (same thing if not better) in the past,With Datatag you get low-tack, dot matrix stickers for etching paint/glass,you can use the sticker for more than one application,I use them with a flat drill bit (by hand not in a drill,doh!) to mark all the non-painted plastic,(takes a while...er, actually ages),then when it comes to etching paint/glass,etc.I used each sticker a few times before they became unusable so was able to mark loads more stuff. I also used Alphadot on mi Defender thats even easier to apply. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

12th Nov 2013 8:25pm

party monkey

Member Since: 31 Dec 2010
Location: Oxon.
Posts: 1311

2005 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Cairns Blue

@Charliefox - am I right in assuming the sticker/stencils you're referring too are the ones that typically are fitting on the plastic trim and then dab the UV fluid on ????

On the basis that's the case, I put some in subtle overt positions around the plastic trim on the dash. I then put the rest in more covert locations. Mine's a td5 so the locations are probably not much use to you really. Overall, I didn't want the inside of the truck looking like a half arsed Panini sticker album.

Couple of tips.... On the UV fluid plastic trim sticker/stencils. Don't overdo the fluid otherwise the sticker/stencil bubbles up and distorts and looks a right dogs breakfast. Can't think how I may know that

Secondly, it doesn't hurt to make a note of all the locations you've marked just if the worst happens and you subsequently got to prove ownership of the motor or the marked panels. Even if the stickers have gone, the UV trace will still be there. Plod may not want to spend all day poking around with a black light, so being able to point them in the right direction quickly may help.

Clearly the pack will only do the major panels and trim pieces, so it may be worth considering something like a Select DNA/Smart Water/Datatag etc marking system that uses the microdots for a more comprehensive marking session.

As an aside, from the work done on this in the past, I seem to recall the datatag etching stickers were made by Retainagroup. Might have changed now though. Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.

12th Nov 2013 11:58pm

Charliefox

Member Since: 03 Oct 2013
Location: County Durham
Posts: 56

Jon - thanks for that, really helpful

Chris

13th Nov 2013 8:31am

churchy

Member Since: 28 Jul 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 236

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

Apologies for refreshing this thread but in light of recent events can anyone recommend any of the products mentioned?

Many thanks.

12th Apr 2014 7:12pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

These have been in the business for a very long time in the motorcycling fraternity and as a result have a good track record and excellent reputation.

http://www.datatag.co.uk/4x4.php If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

12th Apr 2014 7:18pm

churchy

Member Since: 28 Jul 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 236

Great thank you - just emailed them as the dealer locator is not working on their website.

12th Apr 2014 7:44pm

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