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rs2315

Member Since: 16 Sep 2012
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 125

We can't shift the 2.4's mate.

Haven't been looking back on previous threads, so if this has been covered it's my own fault

So when do you think dealers are going to play the card of sorry mate we can only take a pittance for your 2.4
in PX because no ones buying because of the £490 road tax on a 110 SW, LIKE MINE

I remember when I was really young I had a Pug 1.9 GTI, and it was round about the time when they were getting nicked by little scrotes.
Insurance rocketed, so I decided to sell at a loss, with the story from the dealer of we can't move them on.

The sooner i can get a 2.2 the better, what do you think?

rs2315.

15th Sep 2013 10:50am

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

I happily stick with my 2.4.... I would tell those dealers, or anyone else, ... no replacement for displacement.

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15th Sep 2013 10:57am

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

It's a 'window tax!' I pay it and I only covered less than 4000 miles between the last two MOTs. It's a paltry excuse by the dealer to get you to PX at a minimum amount.

As for a 2.2 if the only reason is lower tax that's also a lame excuse in my view. I love mine and will retain it and continue albeit grudgingly to pay the higher road tax as I personally don't want or can justify shelling out on a 2.2 and start the modification process all over again.

Your choice at the end of the day!

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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15th Sep 2013 10:58am

ChrisCM

Member Since: 10 Jun 2013
Location: Cornwall uk
Posts: 572

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black

rs2315,

What year is your 110, I have a 2010 Puma 2.4 Defender 110 (genuine, not a utility conversion) SW and my tax is £220pa, it is classed as an LGV. I understood that at some stage a few years back LR classed all the Defenders as LGVs to avoid the problems with getting passenger car type approvals on the Defenders.

Chris 2010 Defender 110 Station Wagon, Santorini Black.

15th Sep 2013 12:20pm

wyvern

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2071

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red

I look at this as a 'one of those things' and put it into perspective that I pay about £200 per more than a newer 110,
which equates to about 2 tanks of fuel per year which I can easily use that a week if need be.

When I bought my 110 all the vehicles had the same tax on them, it was only after that I found there was a difference, cest la vie!

For me to change my vehicle to save £200 a year is not a real option as I am more likely to spend over that as a loss on trade in value and then on buying another vehicle, the time spent on setting it up to the standard I have now and sorting out any niggles that may present themselves.(it’s a cast of ‘better the devil you know’ most of the time!)

Just my opinion… and probably at odds to others here who are more penny conscious then myself.

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15th Sep 2013 12:28pm

rs2315

Member Since: 16 Sep 2012
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 125

ChrisCM wrote:
rs2315,

What year is your 110, I have a 2010 Puma 2.4 Defender 110 (genuine, not a utility conversion) SW and my tax is £220pa, it is classed as an LGV. I understood that at some stage a few years back LR classed all the Defenders as LGVs to avoid the problems with getting passenger car type approvals on the Defenders.

Chris

One of the first, 07 plate.

rs2315.

15th Sep 2013 4:26pm

rs2315

Member Since: 16 Sep 2012
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 125

I'm easily swayed, I'm sticking with the 2.4.

I'm sure if I do my sums, like others on here and sold for a 2.2 equivalent I'd be spending more than the tax is costing me.

Just hope that dealers never start to use 2.2 against 2.4 argument that i spoke of in my opening post.

On a side note is there any news on the new Defender, pics, info, etc.

Thanks to all for the input.

rs2315.

Last edited by rs2315 on 15th Sep 2013 4:36pm. Edited 1 time in total

15th Sep 2013 4:34pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

As you know 300tdi commercials can't be driven in central London but CSWs can, maybe the same will happen on TD5 commercials and TDCI commercials ...

15th Sep 2013 4:35pm

Sockpuppet

Member Since: 17 Sep 2011
Location: Leicester
Posts: 479

You could always argue that the extra £200 a year road tax will offset against the DPF every 100,000 miles, especially if your a high mileage person.

15th Sep 2013 5:54pm

Dieselhead

Member Since: 21 Oct 2012
Location: Pulborough. West Sussex
Posts: 552

I am sticking to my 2.4 USW thats £490

Mate of mine has 2.4 CSW & thats £220

We have an early 07 CSW & 06 Td5 CSW at work & they are both £490 Chris

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15th Sep 2013 8:50pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4497

Asked the salesman today for a rough value on my 2.4 110 Puma 7 seat County station wagon - through the window of the showroom. 18.000 kms.Bottom value was stated as £20.000 but gave the impression it would go higher if I sold it. He said he has a buyer for it if I decide to sell.Moral is, try another dealer. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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16th Sep 2013 10:40pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

^^That's interesting. Earlier this year, and before my then sub 20,000 mile FMDSH clean and correct 2.4 110 XS USW turned three, I asked my usual dealer what they would allow me against a same spec new one and was quoted £16,000. That, and the woeful driving experience of the 2.2's I'd had on test made me decide to keep the current 110 for another year. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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17th Sep 2013 9:29am

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