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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2259  
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It's probably down to you, to figure it out.
How did you get on with insurance once it was converted? As it's effectively change of use. |
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19th Apr 2024 2:18pm |
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| LR Nuts Member Since: 10 Aug 2022 Location: UK Posts: 835 
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...... and the DVLA, Tax implications
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19th Apr 2024 2:34pm |
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| 1968Luke Member Since: 25 Jan 2024 Location: Essex Posts: 3
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You only need tell the insurance about the modifications, it’s still classed as commercial, didn’t affect me premium.
What does it have to do with DVLA? |
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19th Apr 2024 3:27pm |
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| Defendit.. Member Since: 09 Aug 2020 Location: 's-Hertogenbosch Posts: 369 
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Did your car get the new sliders ? RMA, don't know the number. No Mud flaps for my 90.!
----------------------------------------- P300 S MY21 on air, adv.+ offroad pack, DRL+fog, Dinamica Suedecloth + Ebony headliner/Cross Beam- Many Mods.. |
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19th Apr 2024 3:37pm |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3326
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Yep, it will still be 'N1' on the V5, however it doesn't count as a commercial vehicle any longer with HMRC if it is being used by a business. It will attract company car tax based on its new list price rather than van benefit in kind of £3500.
You're still limited by the van speed limits though of 60mph on dual carriageways and 50mph on single carriageway   |
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19th Apr 2024 3:45pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2259
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l have looked in to it as l have a 90 Commercial.
The law is quite complex on this subject. lt also depends on whether you are actually using it as a commercial vehicle for tax purposes. lf you remove the bulkhead from a Defender Commercial and fit seats/seat belts/windows it could be argued that it is then primarily a passenger vehicle rather than a Commercial vehicle. l am not sure how this would impact the VAT/tax element or BIK. https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/hmrc-carvan-argument Last edited by lightning on 21st Apr 2024 10:49am. Edited 1 time in total |
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20th Apr 2024 6:55pm |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: Bath Posts: 1043 
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Just sell it and buy a non commercial 90. I think there is still a premium on used HT 90s. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
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20th Apr 2024 7:34pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2642
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Difference in RFL between a station wagon version and commercial version is huge. Especially the first year 110 D250 SE HT
110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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21st Apr 2024 5:27pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2259
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Yes the Commercial is exempt from the first years road tax which is around £2,500
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22nd Apr 2024 10:57am |
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| Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 548
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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications...n-the-rear Is a goods vehicle still a goods vehicle, even if it has seats in the back? That depends on the particular circumstances. A goods vehicle is ‘a motor vehicle constructed or adapted for use for the carriage or haulage of goods or burden of any description’. A passenger vehicle is ‘a vehicle constructed solely for the carriage of passengers and their effects’. If, by adding extra seats, all the load space was now taken up by passengers and their effects, a court might decide that the vehicle now fell under the description of ‘passenger vehicle’ rather than ‘goods vehicle’ and would need to meet the regulations that applied to passenger vehicles. This could affect the requirements for items such as seatbelts and brakes, as well as licensing requirements. _______________________ One may assume the reason you went for a commercial variant was due to tax implications. Converting to be essentially a 'car' would be a form of tax evasion. |
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22nd Apr 2024 5:06pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2259
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What he said.
lt's all okay until you get caught. Then the sh*t will really hit the fan. |
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24th Apr 2024 9:47pm |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: Bath Posts: 1043
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I think just from an insurance point of view it's too risky. The car you're building is not the car that was classified as a commercial vehicle. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
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24th Apr 2024 10:36pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2259
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l think we may have scared the O/P off.
But that wasn't the intention, certainly not from me. It's just that modification to a Commercial Vehicle such as fitting seats/windows etc has fairly severe consequences if you get caught. |
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30th Apr 2024 8:45pm |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: Bath Posts: 1043
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Perhaps its that few posts and go syndrome. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
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30th Apr 2024 11:29pm |
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